BigTrav Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 6:32 PM, incognito_man said: of course it is? Why wouldn't it be? hahaha! There you go Aaron, there's Funchess. All the best. Here's some bust RB that we drafted too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 12 hours ago, Blackstar12 said: So disrespectful lol. *Shrug* Show me the lie... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, BigTrav said: hahaha! There you go Aaron, there's Funchess. All the best. Here's some bust RB that we drafted too. i remember when all i knew was fantasy football too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: i remember when all i knew was fantasy football too Fantasy or otherwise, we've seen enough of Devin Funchess to say it's not exactly a needle moving move. Serious question, what were you expecting from him before his Covid opt out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 ET hits on a truth behind all of this. Brady has 9 playoff wins, played in 3 Super Bowls and won 2 since 2017. Rodgers is tied at 2 playoff wins with Bortles (behind Foles at 4) over the same time period. Rodgers wants to be treated as Brady's equal. Its delusional to think he is equal. Add in the fact that Brady gets special consideration because of his leadership and the relationships he has formed over the years (AB and Gronk are only playing because of him right now) Brady is being treated like Manning in Denver because he's a better version of Manning in Denver. Rodgers is being treated like Favre because he's an insecure version of Favre. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Eli won 2 Super Bowls in New York. His team gave him Ben McAdoo and he got the Geno treatment then got replaced by a substandard Daniel Jones. I get that Rodgers is better than Eli but the same is true of Brady vs Rodgers. Russell Wilson is a pretty good comparison and his team is not putting a little QBs table in the War Room either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, ET80 said: Fantasy or otherwise, we've seen enough of Devin Funchess to say it's not exactly a needle moving move. Serious question, what were you expecting from him before his Covid opt out? (1) there is no "needle-moving" move in FA for this offense that wasn't within reach and taken. We signed the best LT and RB that would have been on the market this year (they just happened to already be on the team). And because of that (and QB1's refusal to restructure) there was no available money remaining. (2) Similar story to last offseason. GB drafted 2 offensive skill players in their first 3 picks and 3 OL later. They also signed (3) A former #1 WR who continually improved in a pass-scarce offense on his rookie contract, was then signed to a $10mil/year contract but broke his collarbone. So yes, adding someone with Funchess' skillset improves the team. He would have been the leading candidate as the #2 WR in GB. The joking about Funchess signing just shows a significant lack of understanding about who he is and what the actual role/production of a #2 WR is. "Average" #2 WRs in 2020 had a statline that looks like this: 56 rec, 739 yds, 4 TDs. Funchess would absolutely have been right in that range had he played and stayed healthy IMO. He surpassed that production on a per game basis his last two healthy seasons. Why is there this irrational Funchess hate/misunderstanding? It doesn't make any sense lol. Would signing Emmanual Sanders or T.Y. Hilton have the same response? Likely not - despite them all being on the same tier currently in their careers. This just reeks of uneducated Packer hate more than anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Uncle Buck Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, SkippyX said: ET hits on a truth behind all of this. Brady has 9 playoff wins, played in 3 Super Bowls and won 2 since 2017. Rodgers is tied at 2 playoff wins with Bortles (behind Foles at 4) over the same time period. Rodgers wants to be treated as Brady's equal. Its delusional to think he is equal. Add in the fact that Brady gets special consideration because of his leadership and the relationships he has formed over the years (AB and Gronk are only playing because of him right now) Brady is being treated like Manning in Denver because he's a better version of Manning in Denver. Rodgers is being treated like Favre because he's an insecure version of Favre. "As quarterbacks, we earn our paychecks during the regular season. We build our legacy in the playoffs." - Aaron Rodgers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I'm no Rodgers apologist & it's alarming that Rodgers only has 2 playoff wins since 2017, like Bortles. But I truly believe had Rodgers had not had Mike McCarthy as his Head Coach for many years, he would have more rings. I think McCarthy might be the most overrated head coach in football, if that's possible. Some believe Rodgers won the SB, despite McCarthy as his coach. And is it a coincidence, that the year McCarthy leaves to Dallas? Rodgers has his best career season ever & almost makes a SB appearance? I think not... This tells me 2 things.... 1) That Rodgers will make another SB before he retires & possibly win it. & 2) I don't have to fear the Cowboys as a Washington fan, so long McCarthy remains the Cowboys head coach. Because Dak sure ain't Rodgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: (1) there is no "needle-moving" move in FA for this offense that wasn't within reach and taken. We signed the best LT and RB that would have been on the market this year (they just happened to already be on the team). And because of that (and QB1's refusal to restructure) there was no available money remaining. You and I specifically covered this, so I'll concede. 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: (2) Similar story to last offseason. GB drafted 2 offensive skill players in their first 3 picks They also drafted Rodgers replacement. I mean, I get the animosity. I understand the decision from GBs perspective as well, so don't assume I'm knocking the decision. 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: (3) A former #1 WR who continually improved in a pass-scarce offense on his rookie contract, was then signed to a $10mil/year contract but broke his collarbone. So yes, adding someone with Funchess' skillset improves the team. He would have been the leading candidate as the #2 WR in GB. You are MUCH higher on Devin Funchess than pretty much everyone - probably including Devin Funchess himself. You frame it as a #1 WR, improving in run first offense - I frame it as a converted TE who underachieved given his target share, underachieved due to injury and only played a full 16 games once in his career. It's no coincidence that the receiver needy Panthers chose to let him walk over signing him. If you want to claim him as a viable #2, you're on an island on that one - which is fine, but don't claim you have a coalition of the willing backing said claim. Funchess is no better than MVS (definitely doesn't have the upside that MVSs speed brings to the table). His 2017 season to this point is the outlier, not the expectation. 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: Would signing Emmanual Sanders or T.Y. Hilton have the same response? Seriously? Sanders' worst healthy season as a pro is better than Funchess' best season as a pro. Two seasons ago (last healthy season) TY Hilton was top 15 in yardage. These two have career accolades in the last five years that completely eclipse Funchess' entire career this point. People would be salivating at this thought - there is injury risk with all three, but the upside on the other two is significant compared to Funchess. Invoking those two as comparisons is woefully missing the mark. Funchess is maybe comparable to someone like Chris Hogan or Kevin Walter - a guy who could play #2 if absolutely necessary, but you know that you should upgrade the spot sooner rather than later. You have to justify his slot on the depth chart with platitudes such as "he's a good blocker" and "he's a hard worker and good locker room guy who fits the culture". Things people say to hide a lack of production. You can continue to beat this drum, but nobody's dancing to your beat on this one. Funchess is who he is - more of a #3/specialist than an every down #2 with a bothersome injury history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said: And is it a coincidence, that the year McCarthy leaves to Dallas? Rodgers has his best career season ever & almost makes a SB appearance? I think not... I'm confused on why McCarthy being hired by Dallas (after taking a year off) means anything for Rodgers? Or were you thinking that 2020 was the first year of Rodgers being without McCarthy? It wasn't. Lafleur was hired in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Ron Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Rodgers is so boring. Just quit or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 40 minutes ago, ET80 said: You can continue to beat this drum, but nobody's dancing to your beat on this one. Funchess is who he is - more of a #3/specialist than an every down #2 with a bothersome injury history. That's fine. I have the stats on my side so I'm comfortable with "everyone" else being wrong as you frame it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Just now, incognito_man said: That's fine. I have the stats on my side so I'm comfortable with "everyone" else being wrong as you frame it You don't, but you can believe whatever you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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