soulman Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: All but 1M of his gtd money is already paid since he got his 5M roster bonus last month. They could release him before June and it would only cost 3.7M. https://overthecap.com/player/nick-foles/773/ Where does this $5 mil roster bonus come from? Neither site shows any roster bonus due in 2021. OTC is typically spot on but their numbers don't add up even from their own matrix. This is what I get so where am I wrong? Foles got an $8 mil SB and a $4 mil 2020 salary. That's $12 to date. He's guaranteed another $4 mil in salary this year. That's $16 mil by Jan 2022. In 2022 he's guaranteed $1 mil in salary and a $4 mil roster bonus. That's his $21 mil guaranteed. So if he's released in 2021 he's still owed $9 mil in cash and we eat another $5.3 mil in unamortized SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I wonder if Charles Leno has any trade value? Sure we don't think he is a great LT but he has started every game for the last 6 seasons, is still just under 30 years old, isn't being paid a crazy amount and plays a primer position that their is always a shortage of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, MonserinNC said: Haha....I meant next year, I actually think we see alot Dalton this year.....his job is to be Alex Smith Ah, sorry I didn't pick up on that. Have mercy on an old man.....LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, soulman said: Where does this $5 mil roster bonus come from? Neither site shows any roster bonus due in 2021. OTC is typically spot on but their numbers don't add up even from their own matrix. This is what I get so where am I wrong? Foles got an $8 mil SB and a $4 mil 2020 salary. That's $12 to date. He's guaranteed another $4 mil in salary this year. That's $16 mil by Jan 2022. In 2022 he's guaranteed $1 mil in salary and a $4 mil roster bonus. That's his $21 mil guaranteed. So if he's released in 2021 he's still owed $9 mil in cash and we eat another $5.3 mil in unamortized SB. OTC takes it off as soon as the date appears (assuming to not confuse folks). If you hover over the notepad icon under 2021 it'll say March 20: 4M fully gtd roster bonus due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: I wonder if Charles Leno has any trade value? Sure we don't think he is a great LT but he has started every game for the last 6 seasons, is still just under 30 years old, isn't being paid a crazy amount and plays a primer position that their is always a shortage of. He has none....like not trying to be rude but what team are you thinking needs to trade for a bargain basement LT? haha.....he is a starter for a .500 type team....I could see someone signing him if he is cut but no trades....he would be a lateral move to any good teams backup LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: I wonder if Charles Leno has any trade value? Sure we don't think he is a great LT but he has started every game for the last 6 seasons, is still just under 30 years old, isn't being paid a crazy amount and plays a primer position that their is always a shortage of. I think Leno will start this year. Jenkins plays RT. In 2022, you only have to replace Leno and should have an established Jenkins. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, WindyCity said: I think Leno will start this year. Jenkins plays RT. In 2022, you only have to replace Leno and should have an established Jenkins. So do I...I just wonder if we could speed that process up if he has value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 This moves Ifedi to the bench. Ifedi cannot hold up in the offense that Nagy wants to run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, MonserinNC said: He has none....like not trying to be rude but what team are you thinking needs to trade for a bargain basement LT? haha.....he is a starter for a .500 type team....I could see someone signing him if he is cut but no trades....he would be a lateral move to any good teams backup LT He isn't a bargain basement LT tho...again he is not great but he is better than a lot of guys starting in the NFL at that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, Madmike90 said: So do I...I just wonder if we could speed that process up if he has value. Probably. If Jenkins comes in and takes the LT job you are probably move likely to move him in camp to replace the picks you lost last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, WindyCity said: This moves Ifedi to the bench. Ifedi cannot hold up in the offense that Nagy wants to run I like the fact he can back up at least 3 spots on that OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Probably. If Jenkins comes in and takes the LT job you are probably move likely to move him in camp to replace the picks you lost last year. Whenever it happens, Jenkins is the next starting LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, JAF-N72EX said: OTC takes it off as soon as the date appears (assuming to not confuse folks). If you hover over the notepad icon under 2021 it'll say March 20: 4M fully gtd roster bonus due. I see that but it must be a mistake. There is no roster bonus due in 2021. The matrix even shows that. It's come in 2022. Why when up against the cap would they pay out $4 mil a year ahead of time. A note says it was triggered to be paid in 2021 and if that's true they should adjust their matrix to coincide with that. Even then they still owe him $1 mil cash for 2022 and have two years of his pro-rata SB @ $2,666,666 each dead money. Post June 1st that could be divided into half in 2021 and half in 2022 but if they've already paid him his $4 mil 2022 roster bonus and he's due another $4 mil in 2021 gtd salary ($8 mil cash) I don't see them just releasing him. Their numbers don't seem to add up. Age: 32 Free Agency: 2023 (UFA) Accrued Seasons: 9 Height: 6-6 Weight: 243 College: Arizona Entry: 2012 Draft, Round 3, #88 overall (Eagles) 2021 Salary Cap Charge: $6,666,666 (3.52% of cap) 2021 Cash Payout: $8,000,000 (4.17% of spending) 2021 Cash to Cap Ratio: 1.20 Contract Value: $24,000,000 ($8,000,000 APY) Fully Guaranteed Money: $17,000,000 Contract Ranking: 27/108 at QB 2020 OTC Valuation: $6,505,000 Current Contract (Other, signed 2020) (📝: indicates contract trigger occuring during that year) Total $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $9,000,000 $24,000,000 2020 31 $4,000,000 $2,666,666 $0 $4,000,000 $6,666,666 3.1% 2021 📝 32 $4,000,000 $2,666,666 $0 $4,000,000 $6,666,666 3.5% $7,666,666 ($1,000,000) 2022 📝 33 $4,000,000 $2,666,668 $4,000,000 $1,000,000 $10,666,668 5.3% $3,666,668 $7,000,000 Contract Notes Nick Foles signed a restructured 3 year contract with the Chicago Bears after the trade from Jacksonville. Details on the contract are courtesy of Brad Biggs here. The base value of the contract is $24 million with $17 million fully guaranteed. Foles received a $4 million signing bonus, along with full guaranteed salaries in 2020 and 2021; along with a guaranteed $4 million roster bonus in 2021. $1 million of Fole's base salary in 2022 is guaranteed at signing as well. Foles can earn a $4 million roster bonus in 2022. Foles can also earn up to $6 million annually through incentives, but we are still working on getting those details. Foles can also void the last two years of the contract if specific performance thresholds are met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: I like the fact he can back up at least 3 spots on that OL. I am fine with Ifedi. He can backup the right side. If Leno goes down you move Jenkins over and have Ifedi slide in. The domino effect of adding a talent of Jenkins is huge for the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: Whenever it happens, Jenkins is the next starting LT. If he plays RT for 10 years I don’t ever need him to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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