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NFLGURU

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1 hour ago, Green19 said:

Now go watch Alec Pierce verse Alabama and what he did at the goal line…promise you, it’s Adams level get open on the first move.

Only to have Ridder get the stupid pass knocked down.

I think Pierce is closer to what the Packers have done in the past.  Olave will be a fine football player in the NFL, just not sure size wise if he's what the Packers look for.  Maybe they change that in this draft.  I like Olave,  I'm an Ohio State fan, and wouldn't be disappointed if he's the pick, but I think he's a complementary WR.

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10 hours ago, packfanfb said:

I like Pierce. He would be a good Robin to Olave's Batman. Depending on whether the Packers intend to add a serious veteran WR, they should double up early in the draft. 

My combo would be an Olave/Burks with a Watson/Pierce.

So much yes.

I was listening again recently to some of MLFs remarks about the WR position. He mentioned two roles - the "separator", who can win with route running, quickness and hands (Adams), and a "guy who can take the top off a defense" (MVS). I think Olave/Pierce would be perfect to fill these two roles.

I think we have 4 wr roles on the offense, including the outlet slot filled by Cobb and the red zone/blocking/jump ball role filled by Lazard. I think they like having a big deep threat, but I'm not sure this "separator" role has the same height/weight reqs we see at some of the other spots. We just don't know since they've never needed to replace Adams but it was interesting how MLF only commented on the agility, precision and reliability needed for success in the role, not the size.

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1 hour ago, Sandy said:

So much yes.

I was listening again recently to some of MLFs remarks about the WR position. He mentioned two roles - the "separator", who can win with route running, quickness and hands (Adams), and a "guy who can take the top off a defense" (MVS). I think Olave/Pierce would be perfect to fill these two roles.

I think we have 4 wr roles on the offense, including the outlet slot filled by Cobb and the red zone/blocking/jump ball role filled by Lazard. I think they like having a big deep threat, but I'm not sure this "separator" role has the same height/weight reqs we see at some of the other spots. We just don't know since they've never needed to replace Adams but it was interesting how MLF only commented on the agility, precision and reliability needed for success in the role, not the size.

This is true. Adams has been here since MLF got here, so they've never needed to fill that role. Maybe they do go for somebody like Olave then. Good point. You would think they would have drafted a player in that mold, but maybe the opportunity wasn't there.

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Brat&Beer

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Packerswire had a rundown on the separator and deep threats. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/finding-the-right-wr-duo-for-the-packers-in-2022-nfl-draft/?itm_source=parsely-api

Separators:

Chris Olave, Ohio State
Treylon Burks, Arkansas
Garrett Wilson, Ohio State
George Pickens, Georgia
Jahan Dotson, Penn State
John Metchie, Alabama
Skyy Moore, Western Michigan
Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
Bo Melton, Rutgers

Deep threats:

Chris Olave, Ohio State
Treylon Burks, Arkansas
Garrett Wilson, Ohio State
George Pickens, Georgia
Jahan Dotson, Penn State
John Metchie, Alabama
Skyy Moore, Western Michigan
Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
Bo Melton, Rutgers

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Three 2-round mocks were as follows: 

Mock 1 -- Wyatt (DL), Burks (WR), Pitre (S/CB) and Tolbert (WR)

Mock 2 - Penning (OT), Hill (S/CB), Watson (WR), Pierce (WR)

Mock 3 - Olave (WR), Ojabo (EDGE), Leal (DL), Metchie (WR)

Even though I'm a big Olave guy, I think Mock 2 is your best value. 

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55 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said:

Packerswire had a rundown on the separator and deep threats. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/finding-the-right-wr-duo-for-the-packers-in-2022-nfl-draft/?itm_source=parsely-api

Separators:

Chris Olave, Ohio State
Treylon Burks, Arkansas
Garrett Wilson, Ohio State
George Pickens, Georgia
Jahan Dotson, Penn State
John Metchie, Alabama
Skyy Moore, Western Michigan
Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
Bo Melton, Rutgers

Deep threats:

Chris Olave, Ohio State
Treylon Burks, Arkansas
Garrett Wilson, Ohio State
George Pickens, Georgia
Jahan Dotson, Penn State
John Metchie, Alabama
Skyy Moore, Western Michigan
Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
Bo Melton, Rutgers

Looks like you posted the same list twice.

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9 minutes ago, packfanfb said:

Three 2-round mocks were as follows: 

Mock 1 -- Wyatt (DL), Burks (WR), Pitre (S/CB) and Tolbert (WR)

Mock 2 - Penning (OT), Hill (S/CB), Watson (WR), Pierce (WR)

Mock 3 - Olave (WR), Ojabo (EDGE), Leal (DL), Metchie (WR)

Even though I'm a big Olave guy, I think Mock 2 is your best value. 

Number 3. Adding Edge and DL to a WR double dip is best.

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Brat&Beer

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12 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said:

Looks like you posted the same list twice.

Whoops! Here are the deep threats.

Jameson Williams, Alabama
Christian Watson, North Dakota State
Jalen Tolbert, South Alabama
Isaiah Weston, Northern Iowa
Alec Pierce, Cincinnati
Kevin Austin, Notre Dame
Romeo Doubs, Nevada
Danny Gray, SMU
Tyquan Thornton, Baylor
Jalen Nailor, Michigan State
Khalil Shakir, Boise State
Reggie Roberson, SMU

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42 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said:

Whoops! Here are the deep threats.

Jameson Williams, Alabama
Christian Watson, North Dakota State
Jalen Tolbert, South Alabama
Isaiah Weston, Northern Iowa
Alec Pierce, Cincinnati
Kevin Austin, Notre Dame
Romeo Doubs, Nevada
Danny Gray, SMU
Tyquan Thornton, Baylor
Jalen Nailor, Michigan State
Khalil Shakir, Boise State
Reggie Roberson, SMU

Aw man, I was hoping that was a troll job for everyone obsessing about all the different classifications at WR.
 

There are definitely different roles, as Gute likened a WR corps to being a basketball team. Still, like the modern NBA, things are becoming more “positionless” and having guys that can do multiple things well and not just specialize makes for a much more balanced attack. 

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14 minutes ago, Refugee said:

Aw man, I was hoping that was a troll job for everyone obsessing about all the different classifications at WR.
 

There are definitely different roles, as Gute likened a WR corps to being a basketball team. Still, like the modern NBA, things are becoming more “positionless” and having guys that can do multiple things well and not just specialize makes for a much more balanced attack. 

Garrett Wilson and Olave are guys who could conceivably belong on both lists. 

 

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1 hour ago, packfanfb said:
Three 2-round mocks were as follows: 

Mock 1 -- Wyatt (DL), Burks (WR), Pitre (S/CB) and Tolbert (WR)

Mock 2 - Penning (OT), Hill (S/CB), Watson (WR), Pierce (WR)

Mock 3 - Olave (WR), Ojabo (EDGE), Leal (DL), Metchie (WR)

Even though I'm a big Olave guy, I think Mock 2 is your best value. 

I think 2 as well.  But I have to say, we are in a pretty good position to red shirt Ojabo.  I really think he is an elite prospect.  I don't think I could pass on him at 22, tbh.  

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