doumeyer Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, drew39k said: The problem is that it's not 6 year. We keep blowing up the team and hiring new guys that want to implement different schemes and bring in their own guys. Everytime we do that we completely waste any and all resources that we had committed to the previous rebuild. Until we identify a rebuild plan and actually commit to it we are always going to be behind the 8 ball. The bottom line is it has been six years, but what you say is 100% correct. With out checking our history this could be the longest period of having a terrible team. I remember some bad team back in the eighties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: If we could've only drafted the better, safer Wirfs..... Oh wait Wirfs was definitely the pick to make, but I digress. At least he took a tackle. terrible draft though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big T Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, GangGreen420 said: According to Pro Football Network’s Tony Pauline, sources inside the organization said the Jets aren’t happy with Becton thus far. Several people working with the team believe the 22-year-old taps out of plays and isn’t showing the work ethic required to be a quality NFL player. Specifically, one of the biggest issues is his weight. Showing up to training camp heavier than he even was at the NFL Scouting Combine, the inability to maintain playing shape is a concern. Another problem area for New York is reportedly Becton’s maturity at least Douglas tried.. but what a terrible draft 2020 was For the most part these guy's have been hurt. I can't speak to the Becton issue. But Davis has been out since the injury, what about a year and only began playing a few games ago? I'm sure their is rust and trying to adjust to a new scheme. Becton has been out for more than half the season and will probably miss 2/3 of it? Using Mim's in such a sparing way and then throwing him into the mix is not a winning strategy. Perine is buried on the depth chart. Morgan signed elsewhere and Clarke had a spinal injury which could have been disastrous and who knows if he will ever play again. Mann, Hall and Becton have been good players but the injuries have played a major role in the 2020 draft. If there was one guy who disappoints it would be Zuniga "He" IMHO was a wasted pick in round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Born and Raised Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Bobby816 said: If we could've only drafted the better, safer Wirfs..... Oh wait There were 2 other teams that drafted OTs head of Jets, and passed on Wirfs. Evidentally they made same mistake also. No one foresaw how unmotivated Becton would be. Like all picks there are risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Looking like Neal or another day 1 or 2 pick will be spent on OT. If Becton ever gets his head out of his ***, put him at RT and see how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: Rick there are only 32 teams in the NFL those score you posted are nearly perfect. How come our defensive is so bad? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: Embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Big T said: For the most part these guy's have been hurt. I can't speak to the Becton issue. But Davis has been out since the injury, what about a year and only began playing a few games ago? I'm sure their is rust and trying to adjust to a new scheme. Becton has been out for more than half the season and will probably miss 2/3 of it? Using Mim's in such a sparing way and then throwing him into the mix is not a winning strategy. Perine is buried on the depth chart. Morgan signed elsewhere and Clarke had a spinal injury which could have been disastrous and who knows if he will ever play again. Mann, Hall and Becton have been good players but the injuries have played a major role in the 2020 draft. If there was one guy who disappoints it would be Zuniga "He" IMHO was a wasted pick in round 3. If this is 100% true this is just another disaster in the last six years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 BREAKING NEWS The Jets just sign Rachad Wildgoose, from the bills. You can't make this **** up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 In our last four games the defensive has given up 175 points. That is a average of 44 points a game. All those years of drafting defensive in the first round has been a total bust. Now on offensive it looks like Becton, has one foot out the door and the other foot on a banana peal. And what is the true story on Mims, he has been here 1 1/2 years and is a none factor. I am tired of blaming coaches, the real blame has to be the Trust Fund Kids Woody & Chris. Can these two clowns should show some emotion after all those disasters losses over the last three out four games. Do something ever if it is just going into the locker room and turning over the buffet table after these games The only bright spot has been the Half of football Wilson, played, the rest of his playing time has been another disaster. The other bright spot was the great game White had. Ever time we hit rock bottom the next week is even worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, doumeyer said: I am tired of blaming coaches, the real blame has to be the Trust Fund Kids Woody & Chris The problem with this is that they would then be lambasted for being meddling owners. IMO, the biggest problem has been the poor hiring practices of those two. They just never got it right. Then they change coaches and / or GM and the whole system changes leading to another “rebuild”. Many believe we have the right GM this time who actually wants to build through the draft. It will take time to do it that way, but when it happens, we should have what we always wanted - a team that competes year in and year out. Not just a one hit wonder. The real question ATM is do we have the right coaches? Next year will answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 hours ago, rickyt31 said: Gase sucks. No I will not stop doing this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 hours ago, xrade said: The problem with this is that they would then be lambasted for being meddling owners. IMO, the biggest problem has been the poor hiring practices of those two. They just never got it right. Then they change coaches and / or GM and the whole system changes leading to another “rebuild”. Many believe we have the right GM this time who actually wants to build through the draft. It will take time to do it that way, but when it happens, we should have what we always wanted - a team that competes year in and year out. Not just a one hit wonder. The real question ATM is do we have the right coaches? Next year will answer that. Building thru the draft is the only way to go. You can't build a team with FA pickups. FA players should be used to fill one or two holes on a roster, like Belichick, does in New England. I think you are right about Douglas, he does want to build thru the draft. His problem is he is still cleaning up Macc, mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, doumeyer said: Building thru the draft is the only way to go. You can't build a team with FA pickups. FA players should be used to fill one or two holes on a roster, like Belichick, does in New England. I think you are right about Douglas, he does want to build thru the draft. His problem is he is still cleaning up Macc, mess. Agreed. Woody and Chrissy are getting better as owners. They learned that you can't have a coach and GM both reporting to them. They don't really stick their noses in but will do what is needed, I guess. The biggest issue ATM is coaching followed by talent. I don't think Saleh and co. are putting the players in the best position to succeed which goes against what Saleh said at his introductory presser. Fine. Get the players you need to run your system. Just do it quick and stop blowing smoke up our collective *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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