NCOUGHMAN Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: 14. Kenny Pickett | QB | Pittsburgh 42. George Pickens | WR | Georgia 77. Daniel Faalele | OT | Minnesota 122. Akayleb Evans | CB | Missouri 155. Terrel Bernard | LB | Baylor 173. Ricky Stromberg | C | Arkansas 217. Robert Cooper | DT | Florida State 228. Ben Brown | OL | Ole Miss You’re on your way to breaking hb’s mock record lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Picking 14th now. This is a team that’s gonna find themselves in that 10th or 9th spot at least by seasons end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: You’re on your way to breaking hb’s mock record lol When we have holes at like 19/20 positions and a high pick, it's hard to resist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 6 hours ago, big_palooka said: Deebo Samuel but bigger IMO Same physicality and body type but add like 3-4 inches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Same physicality and body type but add like 3-4 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: No way. He still isn’t the best separator. I’d say 4.4s, MAYBE high 4.3s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Jameson looks like mid to low 4.3 for sure. Maybe the smoothest bama receiver ive ever seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: No way. He still isn’t the best separator. I’d say 4.4s, MAYBE high 4.3s. My gut says 4.36 Which is plenty fast. 4.2's? Nah, no way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Jameson looks like mid to low 4.3 for sure. Maybe the smoothest bama receiver ive ever seen. Yeah I love Jameson although I'm not sure we'd take another Alabama WR early, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Yeah I love Jameson although I'm not sure we'd take another Alabama WR early, lol. Why not? No reason to think he’ll suck just because Ruggs did that. I don’t think we’ll see anything that dumb for at least another 10 years. It’s going to become a teaching point for players now. Jameson is a better prospect than Ruggs for sure. His route running is already at A level. He just needs to get a little bigger. But he will be a year 1 impact WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Why not? No reason to think he’ll suck just because Ruggs did that. I don’t think we’ll see anything that dumb for at least another 10 years. It’s going to become a teaching point for players now. Jameson is a better prospect than Ruggs for sure. His route running is already at A level. He just needs to get a little bigger. But he will be a year 1 impact WR. Every time we draft someone from Alabama, it burns us. Until we show an aptitude for discerning successful potential from guys who rode the waves of being surrounded by a ton of talent and had issues overlooked because of their status as a star athlete, I'd honestly prefer to stay away from the perennial 5* programs myself. For whatever reason, we almost constantly pick the wrong person from those types of programs, be it on or off the field stuff. Honestly, some of our best talent has come from "smaller" programs. Georgia Tech, Fresno St, UCLA, Illinois, Ohio, Maryland, TCU, Buffalo... I'm not saying other schools don't have issues with character or production, they certainly do. But the Alabama's and Ohio State's just have that "thing" imo, and it never seems to want to work on our favor. Once we establish we can actually scout, then go looking at the big programs where very few guys stand out amongst their teammates (admittedly subjective opinion) since the bulk of the team has NFL "talent". It feels like we have a tendency to just go "Plays a position of need? Check. Plays for one of the big 4 or 5 programs? Check. Congratulations, you're a Raider.". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Every time we draft someone from Alabama, it burns us. Until we show an aptitude for discerning successful potential from guys who rode the waves of being surrounded by a ton of talent and had issues overlooked because of their status as a star athlete, I'd honestly prefer to stay away from the perennial 5* programs myself. For whatever reason, we almost constantly pick the wrong person from those types of programs, be it on or off the field stuff. Honestly, some of our best talent has come from "smaller" programs. Georgia Tech, Fresno St, UCLA, Illinois, Ohio, Maryland, TCU, Buffalo... I'm not saying other schools don't have issues with character or production, they certainly do. But the Alabama's and Ohio State's just have that "thing" imo, and it never seems to want to work on our favor. Once we establish we can actually scout, then go looking at the big programs where very few guys stand out amongst their teammates (admittedly subjective opinion) since the bulk of the team has NFL "talent". It feels like we have a tendency to just go "Plays a position of need? Check. Plays for one of the big 4 or 5 programs? Check. Congratulations, you're a Raider.". Yeah but you’re oversimplifying it a bit. He’s a great prospect. What reason is there for him to fail in terms of football reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 As much as I don't want to say it, if we go WR this early, Jameson needs to be that guy. While I might like another WR better, Jameson is more of what we need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Why not? No reason to think he’ll suck just because Ruggs did that. I don’t think we’ll see anything that dumb for at least another 10 years. It’s going to become a teaching point for players now. Jameson is a better prospect than Ruggs for sure. His route running is already at A level. He just needs to get a little bigger. But he will be a year 1 impact WR. I could just see Mark Davis being hesitant to draft another Alabama WR after Ruggs/Cooper both didn't really work out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: For whatever reason, we almost constantly pick the wrong person from those types of programs, be it on or off the field stuff. I think it's on us and our culture/lack of leadership. Najee Harris, Jerry Jeudy, Jaylen Waddle, Devonta Smith, etc have all come out of Alabama in recent years and have had zero issues in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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