Pugger Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, SpeightTheVillain said: But he mostly likely wouldn't be the Aaron Rodgers we know if TT didn't pick him and MM didn't coach him up. True. Rodgers wasn't the QB is today when he was drafted and he benefited sitting behind Favre and learned his craft. I'm not going to rag on MM because Hundley looked like garbage today. Now, if we don't see improvement in the coming weeks? That's an entirely different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, incognito_man said: yes, I think Mike McCarthy is largely responsible for the success this team has had for the last decade. Including the playoff streak. TT is first MM is second AR is third Oh, my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 At some point, we need to cut our losses. We hit our apex with McCarthy a few year back and now we've been sliding. I think McCarthy has managed the locker room well, but his questionable scheme is repeatedly bailed out by the improvisation of one Aaron Rodgers. Beating up on lackluster opponents in the NFC North isn't the sign of a great coach, especially when those double digit win Packer teams struggled in the postseason. It's time to move on and try to salvage what remains of #12's career with someone different. I view it like the Dusty Baker situation recently with the Nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFP7 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: ok, that doesn't address the point at all though. Aaron didn't go be fine elsewhere. He is great here. And there are two guys (other than Aaron) to thank for that. I get McCarthy is a great QB coach, so he has had a great affect on Aaron....but I'm struggling with Ted being all that important. It's not like Rodgers was a 7th round pick; someone would have drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollino14 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, incognito_man said: ok, that doesn't address the point at all though. Aaron didn't go be fine elsewhere. He is great here. And there are two guys (other than Aaron) to thank for that. Yup! Without Mac and TT I’m sure Aaron would be flipping burgers somewhere! If Mac created Aaron Rodgers into a HOF QB, he should be able to coach Brett Hundley to score more than 17 points at home vs New Orleans! Giving TT and MM all the credit for Aaron’s success is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, KFP7 said: I get McCarthy is a great QB coach, so he has had a great affect on Aaron....but I'm struggling with Ted being all that important. It's not like Rodgers was a 7th round pick; someone would have drafted him. Well, TT is the guy who drafted him for GB. He is the person who made the decision, and then made the decision to hire MM to coach him. He gets full credit for Aaron Rodgers playing for Green Bay. He has since been able to sustain a successful roster around him while working with among the league's lowest capital in that timeframe. League is designed to make GB worse via draft capital. It's hard to overcome that. Most teams/GMs do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, TheOnlyThing said: Do tell. What "change" are you vocal about making? I think replacing Dom and going with most likely Perry is the way to go. I don't think replacing McCarthy or Thompson is the solution right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, pollino14 said: Yup! Without Mac and TT I’m sure Aaron would be flipping burgers somewhere! If Mac created Aaron Rodgers into a HOF QB, he should be able to coach Brett Hundley to score more than 17 points at home vs New Orleans! Giving TT and MM all the credit for Aaron’s success is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard. that's fine. this is one of the dumbest responses I could have expected to my point. So it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, pollino14 said: Yup! Without Mac and TT I’m sure Aaron would be flipping burgers somewhere! If Mac created Aaron Rodgers into a HOF QB, he should be able to coach Brett Hundley to score more than 17 points at home vs New Orleans! Giving TT and MM all the credit for Aaron’s success is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard. Giving TT and MM zero credit for Aaron’s success is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I view Dom and McCarthy as a combo. You can't get rid of one and trick yourself into thinking things will dramatically change. I think the whole regime needs to be sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, CWood21 said: I think replacing Dom and going with most likely Perry is the way to go. I don't think replacing McCarthy or Thompson is the solution right now. Fair enough, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Slinky said: What did you think about McCarthy's performance today? feel free to read other threads in the forum. I've commented on this at least a dozen times already. I won't repeat myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, KFP7 said: I get McCarthy is a great QB coach, so he has had a great affect on Aaron....but I'm struggling with Ted being all that important. It's not like Rodgers was a 7th round pick; someone would have drafted him. The argument is that bc TT picked Rodgers in the 1st round, he's the greatest GM of all time and everything Rodgers has or will ever do is only because TT had the guts, intuition and courage to draft him. Something like that anyways. When Rodgers gets inducted into the HOF, it should have an asterisk that says, "he accomplsihed all of this only bc TT drafted him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: feel free to read other threads in the forum. I've commented on this at least a dozen times already. I won't repeat myself. LOL. I see then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollino14 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, TransientTexan said: Giving TT and MM zero credit for Aaron’s success is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Why don’t you take a stroll to the previous page? Because I most certainly give MM for his development. my god, people pick and choose what they wanna believe on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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