Heymangold Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 thoughts on if zach not signing his contract yet is going to bleed into the start of camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Heymangold said: thoughts on if zach not signing his contract yet is going to bleed into the start of camp? Not an issue. He’ll be at camp regardless. But I’m sure a deal will be done soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Heymangold said: thoughts on if zach not signing his contract yet is going to bleed into the start of camp? Should be done soon enough. Zach is the starter, got tons of reps and works tirelessly. He will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Its wonderful that camp is starting and our rookie QB isn't even signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 12 hours ago, NYJets4716 said: Its wonderful that camp is starting and our rookie QB isn't even signed. Darnold 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Hopefully they get this kid in there soon. No reason this should go multiple days into camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 I don’t think this will be an issue. But I assume this is JD being a tad ridiculous. I mean the picks around this are signed and are QBs. The offset language has a baseline, so it is a tad ridiculous this is still going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Jets, Zach Wilson issues include cash flow, offsets Mike Florio 3 hours ago For rookie contracts, the dollars and cents are tied to draft position. From that perspective, there’s nothing to negotiate. The higher the player selected, however, the more issues to discuss. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Jets and quarterback Zach Wilson have struck multiple roadblocks on the path to a contract for the second overall pick in the draft. Issues include (but aren’t limited to) cash flow and offset language. As to cash flow, the Jets want to defer millions in signing bonus money earned by Wilson when he executes the contract to 2022. The recent precedent for players taken in the top two include all signing bonus money paid promptly. (Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow and Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence, the last two No. 1 overall picks, got theirs within 15 days of signing. The last two second overall picks, 49ers defensive end Nick Bosa and Washington defensive end Chase Young, received their signing bonus within 30 days of signing.) The Jets paid out the full signing bonus received by quarterback Sam Darnold, the third overall pick in the draft, in 2018, the year he was drafted. The Jets hope to break from precedent and push money into 2022 based on the “new boss” argument, pointing to the change in G.M. from Mike Maccagnan to Joe Douglas. That hasn’t gotten Wilson to blink, and there’s no reason to think it will. As to offset, it’s always a simple matter of whether a guarantee is a true guarantee. If the Jets can protect themselves by forcing someone else to pay the balance of the four-year contract if Wilson busts, it’s not a true and full guarantee. Players want the offset language removed (few actually get that term) in order to receive a true and full guarantee. Meanwhile, the Jets will move forward with training camp without Wilson — and with James Morgan and Mike White as the only two quarterbacks in camp. Let’s mention that again. Without Wilson, the only options at quarterback are James Morgan and Mike White. In other words, Wilson has a bit of leverage here. This franchise just can’t get out of its own way. I’m inclined to think the holdup on the Jets end comes from the Johnsons. If the offsets come into play JD more than likely won’t be employed here by then anyway. Edited July 27, 2021 by GangGreen420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Now that there are only three preseason games now, it will be a little tougher for late round and undrafted players to make most NFL teams. But I do like the ideas of only three preseason game. I remember when the NFL was a 12 game regular season and six preseason games that was nuts. With this new system we have a much better chance of going into the season with much less injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heymangold Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 so its just the jets being cheap. ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Heymangold said: so its just the jets being cheap. ridiculous. Not a good look to not pay Maye and this. Trust me players realize this and it does hurt us in FA. We just need to get the deal done with Wilson. Everyday he's not here hurts in his development and relationship with the staff and teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Heymangold said: so its just the jets being cheap. ridiculous. I mean I understand the offset language aspect to an extent though I’m one to throw out precedents when it comes to premium positions/players. The payout issue, which I figured was also part of it, is just ridiculous though. You gotta pay him it eventually. Just pay the kid so he can get to camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekill08x Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Bobby816 said: Not a good look to not pay Maye and this. Trust me players realize this and it does hurt us in FA. We just need to get the deal done with Wilson. Everyday he's not here hurts in his development and relationship with the staff and teammates. Paying Maye at his age really isn’t smart either. This doesn’t impact FA at all. The players we sign are FREE AGENTS their teams didn’t pay THEM! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Lance signed his deal… just Zach now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Camp doesn’t start until #2 hits the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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