candyman93 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Packers should trade for Cooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mid Iowa said: You spending too much time looking at box scores? Saints have (possibly) the #1 or #2 O-line in the league, top 5 running back, an emerging WR that is proving to be crazy good, and a QB who has put up mega numbers with garbage coaching. Watch a game and then get back to everybody. The Saints beat the Buccaneers two out of three last year. And they did so with the rotting corpse of Drew Brees who had zero arm strength, with one of those times him not having a fully functional thumb. The Saints have lost Trey Hendrickson and replaced him with a 1st round DE. They lost Jack Rabbit and replaced him with Roby. They lost Emmanuel Sanders and replaced him with the far superior Marquez Callaway. They lost Jared Cook, who sucked...and replaced him with Adam Trautman and Juwan Johnson. The biggest loss by a country mile is the suspension of David Onyemata (but the Saints will still be a top 3 run defense regardless). The otherwise didn't lose a soul. They still have a top 3 OL...frankly I think that they are probably the best considering that 2020 OG Cesar Ruiz was easily the weakest link on the OL and looks night-day better this season. CGM was completely useless last season. I'm not expecting anything from his this year, but if he even dose something this year he'll be an upgrade to last year. And as I said before, Marcus Davenport and Zack Baun both look incredible this season...both players who should be substantially better than last year. You don't know how it will play out until it does, but the Saints still have the pieces in place to be a very good team. Edited September 8, 2021 by sammymvpknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Iowa Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, sammymvpknight said: The Saints beat the Buccaneers two out of three last year. And they did so with the rotting corpse of Drew Brees who had zero arm strength, with one of those times him not having a fully functional thumb. The Saints have lost Trey Hendrickson and replaced him with a 1st round DE. They lost Jack Rabbit and replaced him with Roby. They lost Emmanuel Sanders and replaced him with the far superior Marquez Callaway. They lost Jared Cook, who sucked...and replaced him with Adam Trautman and Juwan Johnson. The biggest loss by a country margin is the suspension of David Onyemata (but the Saints will still be a top 3 run defense regardless). The otherwise didn't lose a soul. They still have a top 3 OL...frankly I think that they are probably the best considering that 2020 OG Cesar Ruiz was easily the weakest link on the OL and looks night-day better this season. CGM was completely useless last season. I'm not expecting anything from his this year, but if he even dose something this year he'll be an upgrade to last year. And as I said before, Marcus Davenport and Zack Baun both look incredible this season...both players who should be substantially better than last year. You don't know how it will play out until it does, but the Saints still have the pieces in place to be a very good team. Yeah, I think people look at the loss of Brees, and the injury to MT and think "there goes the offense". Well, Brees has been sub-par for at least 3 seasons, and MT was hurt ALL of last season. I'm actually really excited to see what Winston can do with full focus from a proven coach. We see what Payton did with Brees, now let's see if he can do the same with Winston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW21 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 On a kind of related note; what is going on with Gareon Conley? He wouldn't have cost anything other than his contract. I wanted the Niners to kick the tires on him, but they went the Josh Norman route instead. I haven't been able to find anything that'd be keeping him unsigned. I know he had an injury last year, but I would assume that he's recovered by now. Is he just horrible at football now? I know he had a slow start in Oakland, but from what I remember he started to turn it around a bit and played decent in Houston. I could be way off there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloxygenil Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mid Iowa said: You spending too much time looking at box scores? Saints have (possibly) the #1 or #2 O-line in the league, top 5 running back, an emerging WR that is proving to be crazy good, and a QB who has put up mega numbers with garbage coaching. Watch a game and then get back to everybody. They havenât played a game yet, soâĤ Iâm having a hard time figuring out what theyâre going to be. Their offense could be a dumpster fire outside of Kamara. They donât have a WR proving to be âcrazy goodâ and youâre still counting on Winston, who coming into the league I thought was going to be a big hit because heâs got the talent, but in the NFL he hasnât put it together, yet. So Iâm struggling to put my finger on it, they could be a 12 win team, they could just as easily be a 4 win team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, GW21 said: On a kind of related note; what is going on with Gareon Conley? He wouldn't have cost anything other than his contract. I wanted the Niners to kick the tires on him, but they went the Josh Norman route instead. I haven't been able to find anything that'd be keeping him unsigned. I know he had an injury last year, but I would assume that he's recovered by now. Is he just horrible at football now? I know he had a slow start in Oakland, but from what I remember he started to turn it around a bit and played decent in Houston. I could be way off there though. I don't think he's under contract anymore... I don't think he improved either; He just looked better playing alongside a secondary so bad it should be called a thirdiary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW21 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ET80 said: I don't think he's under contract anymore... I don't think he improved either; He just looked better playing alongside a secondary so bad it should be called a thirdiary.  lol that got me. I knew he was a free agent, that's what is surprising to me. I figured someone would have at least brought him in for camp or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ET80 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Tk3 said: if we're being totally honest - if Texans had dealt Watson for a major pick package, plus tanked this year they would actually have been in a pretty damn reasonable spot. They would be incredibly pick heavy, they would have tons of cap space moving forward, and they would actually have looked really good by getting out ahead of this Watson situation (albeit, they didn't know at the time) Here's the only thing - any trades made before the start of the new league year is in principal only. That don't execute until after the new league year started. - Tony Buzbee filed his first case/posted to Instagram on 03/16/21. - 2021 League year started on 03/17/21. Even if the Texans traded him before the start of the new league year, the recipient could quickly revoke the trade when the legal issues started. I don't disagree with you in theory, but the legal issues started right before anything would have been "official" with the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 If the Texans are having a fire sale: Cincinnati should call about Tunsil, Cleveland should call about Cunningham, and Detroit also should call about Cooks.  Just go scorched earth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 7 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Â I'm pretty sure the Saints don't have 9.2 (or 8.65 after game 1 suspension?) cap room so maybe the Texans eat some money? Or the Saints do even more salary cap dark rituals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Check out how insanely low the Saints base salaries are already: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints/ Williams is on a 5th year option and no one else is above 2.35 million. They are holding 37.5 million in dead cap. They are already 25 million over next year's cap without Armstead, Lattimore, both Williams DBs, or a QB besides Book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 7 hours ago, GW21 said: On a kind of related note; what is going on with Gareon Conley? He wouldn't have cost anything other than his contract. I wanted the Niners to kick the tires on him, but they went the Josh Norman route instead. I haven't been able to find anything that'd be keeping him unsigned. I know he had an injury last year, but I would assume that he's recovered by now. Is he just horrible at football now? I know he had a slow start in Oakland, but from what I remember he started to turn it around a bit and played decent in Houston. I could be way off there though. He was hurt as a rookie but flashed during his second season, all of our fanbase thought he'd be a solid starter long-term. Then he got hit by Abram and hurt his neck, came back, and was traded to Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 The Texans are the second oldest team in football and likely have the worst roster in the league.... they have no choice but to tank at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) Surprised the Saints didnt sell the farm for Justin Fields and Trey Sermon TBH Also, I wish the local Browns would treat Ohio St. players like Pokemon the way the Saints do. Edited September 9, 2021 by AkronsWitness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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