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3 minutes ago, Adrenaline_Flux said:

We were dysfunctional with the Weavers too and a lot was sacrificed to make the team look "shiny" for someone to buy. We're a cursed franchise. It doesn't matter who the owner is.

It was never like the last 4 years have been when the Weavers owned the franchise. 

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12 minutes ago, Adrenaline_Flux said:

it was getting there

The biggest issue with the Weavers is that they no longer had the drive and the business sense to make the team profitable. And then they left the team in a bit of a holding pattern to try to bump up the valuation. Like the team was hemorrhaging money and from an ownership making money perspective things had gone bad, but those aren’t things that impact fans at any real level. 

But there was never really football operations disfunction. I mean the worst thing was JDR knowing he was going to be fired and mailing in the end of his tenure. Otherwise, like the team wasn’t good and Gene Smith was an idiot, but he probably was only kept that whole time so that the franchise could continue to be a blank canvas for the new ownership.

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Just now, pwny said:

The biggest issue with the Weavers is that they no longer had the drive and the business sense to make the team profitable. And then they left the team in a bit of a holding pattern to try to bump up the valuation.

But there was never really football operations disfunction. I mean the worst thing was JDR knowing he was going to be fired and mailing in the end of his tenure. Otherwise, like the team wasn’t good and Gene Smith was an idiot, but he probably was only kept that whole time so that the franchise could continue to be a blank canvas for the new ownership.

he was promoted as a "yes man" to make conservative moves to make the team look better for a sale after Shack Harris's 2008 moves blew up so catastrophically. that's why the team preached a "base hit choir boy" philosophy and passed up on riskier but more rewarding prospects for purely role guys. There was a lot of ownership interference in football operations and a lot of twisting of the truth when it came to the 2008-2011 Jaguars and the sale of the team. 

my point isn't to absolve the Khans though it's that this team is cursed and has been since 2008, but we're fans and we always need a new boogeyman big bad to point at to feel like there's any semblance of hope

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3 minutes ago, Adrenaline_Flux said:

he was promoted as a "yes man" to make conservative moves to make the team look better for a sale after Shack Harris's 2008 moves blew up so catastrophically. that's why the team preached a "base hit choir boy" philosophy and passed up on riskier but more rewarding prospects for purely role guys. There was a lot of ownership interference in football operations and a lot of twisting of the truth when it came to the 2008-2011 Jaguars and the sale of the team. 

my point isn't to absolve the Khans though it's that this team is cursed and has been since 2008, but we're fans and we always need a new boogeyman big bad to point at to feel like there's any semblance of hope

LIS - blank canvas and holding pattern.

Not really cursed. The Weavers wanted out and made the team appealing for someone to take over and build how they wanted. Shad is just a garbage owner. And he maybe blew our single opportunity to truly get out of this.

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Put a HC in here that is competent with Trevor and we end up being a competitive team for the next decade.

Ownership is an issue, but I think Trevor is the guy who rises above that ala Peyton/Luck in Indy. But if we keep having these in house fires from the FO/coaching staff that makes it pretty impossible.

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