soulman Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Oh hell. Nagy lives to fight another day. Four tough one comin' up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Quote Bryan Perez @BryanPerezNFL · 12m Matt Nagy on the #Bears play-calling today: “Bill did a great job.” Mystery solved. So Nagy really is no longer required. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Alex Shapiro @AlexShapiroNBCS · 15m "In some ways I'm glad last week happened." Justin Fields says he likes how adversity brings out a different person inside him, and pushes him to do better. "And also the fact that Nagy stopped calling dumb 6 yard curls and let me show my talent...thank God for Billl Lazor...as disgusting a thing as that is to say since he isn't much better...please save me Brian Daboll" Only one part of this quote was from Fields himself...but all is true😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I really don't care if I see Trevathan again. Ogletree flies around out there Whoever keeps taking Quinn's uniform every week and dressing as him, pay the man! I haven't checked stats but by the eye test, O'Donnell has been really good this year (cc: @Sugashane) Fields made some great, chunk throws today. Gotta love it. I still think he can speed up his game even more, such as on the strip sack I thought he could've tucked it and run, but I like what I saw They hope and believe that Montgomery, per Rapoport, has a hyperextension and nothing more severe. If he is out for awhile, Damien Williams looked fast and shifty today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: Alex Shapiro @AlexShapiroNBCS · 15m "In some ways I'm glad last week happened." Justin Fields says he likes how adversity brings out a different person inside him, and pushes him to do better. "And also the fact that Nagy stopped calling dumb 6 yard curls and let me show my talent...thank God for Billl Lazor...as disgusting a thing as that is to say since he isn't much better...please save me Brian Daboll" Only one part of this quote was from Fields himself...but all is true😂 I think Daboll leaked that when they talked in the preseason. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sugashane said: I think Daboll leaked that when they talked in the preseason. lol Man I hope so hahaha...I think Daboll would be excellent here with Fields. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, beardown3231 said: I really don't care if I see Trevathan again. Ogletree flies around out there Whoever keeps taking Quinn's uniform every week and dressing as him, pay the man! I haven't checked stats but by the eye test, O'Donnell has been really good this year (cc: @Sugashane) Fields made some great, chunk throws today. Gotta love it. I still think he can speed up his game even more, such as on the strip sack I thought he could've tucked it and run, but I like what I saw They hope and believe that Montgomery, per Rapoport, has a hyperextension and nothing more severe. If he is out for awhile, Damien Williams looked fast and shifty today Yeah, Pat has been booming the ball like I thought he would when we drafted him the last 2 weeks. He's laying into it like I hoped when he was drafted. BUT... dude has like 6 years of mediocre play, I'm not holding my breath that this is more than just a lucky streak. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sugashane said: Yeah, Pat has been booming the ball like I thought he would when we drafted him the last 2 weeks. He's laying into it like I hoped when he was drafted. BUT... dude has like 6 years of mediocre play, I'm not holding my breath that this is more than just a lucky streak. lol He is getting longer punts this year but his net is also in the bottom quarter of the league, that to me says he isn't getting much air time to where the coverage team can get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, blkwdw13 said: He is getting longer punts this year but his net is also in the bottom quarter of the league, that to me says he isn't getting much air time to where the coverage team can get there. Remember the Browns' returner made a few people just miss and had a few big returns because of that. I bet that had a huge impact since we are so early in the season. He did well last week but the coverage was just trash. It has been for a while, which might be why he has to sky the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sugashane said: Remember the Browns' returner made a few people just miss and had a few big returns because of that. I bet that had a huge impact since we are so early in the season. He did well last week but the coverage was just trash. It has been for a while, which might be why he has to sky the ball. Well then not including the Browns game he was only averaging 41 a punt which would be good for third worst in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 Yeah, just went to ESPN and looked at the play by play. Returns 61 yard punt for 14 yard return 61 yards for 13 yard return 52 yards for 11 yard return and a block in the back 50 yards for 23 yard return 63 yards for 9 yard return 48 yards for 14 yard return 62 yards for 24 yards return When you are kicking 48 yards and allow 14 yards on a return and 63 yards for a 9 yard return that shows a big inconsistency in coverage more than anything IMO. Especially when only 1 in 7 is held to under 10 yards on a return.That may mean he needs to sky more to compensate - which is likely a common thing - but I think coverage is worse than the punting in this case. And we know I have zero issues calling POD out for sucking. I feel like our coverage has been pretty poor on average since the Trestman era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Sugashane said: Yeah, just wen to ESPN and looked at the play by play. Returns 61 yard punt for 14 yard return 61 yards for 13 yard return 52 yards for 11 yard return and a block in the back 50 yards for 23 yard return 63 yards for 9 yard return 48 yards for 14 yard return 62 yards for 24 yards return When you are kicking 48 yards and allow 14 yards on a return and 63 yards for a 9 yard return that shows a big inconsistency in coverage more than anything IMO. Especially when only 1 in 7 is held to under 10 yards on a return. Chris Tabor strikes again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Madmike90 said: Chris Tabor strikes again. That's my guess as well. We had the most return yards in the league prior to this week, 7th most in the league last year, 10th most the year before that. In 2018 we had the 5th LEAST punt return yards allowed. And in 2017 the 3rd most with over 500. Meanwhile POD's net has been pretty damn close to the same year after year. Boom it and risk the big play (or help the anemic offense) or be safe and try to force the fair catch (but make sure you rarely ever flip the field for your defense). The coaching just seems to be worse than POD. That being said, I don't see what he offers that warrants a higher paycheck than what a decent rookie or cheap FA could do. But without better coaching we might as well just focus on offense and defense and just deal with whatever the ST can do. They aren't getting coached worth a damn on that facet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sugashane said: Yeah, just went to ESPN and looked at the play by play. Returns 61 yard punt for 14 yard return 61 yards for 13 yard return 52 yards for 11 yard return and a block in the back 50 yards for 23 yard return 63 yards for 9 yard return 48 yards for 14 yard return 62 yards for 24 yards return When you are kicking 48 yards and allow 14 yards on a return and 63 yards for a 9 yard return that shows a big inconsistency in coverage more than anything IMO. Especially when only 1 in 7 is held to under 10 yards on a return.That may mean he needs to sky more to compensate - which is likely a common thing - but I think coverage is worse than the punting in this case. And we know I have zero issues calling POD out for sucking. I feel like our coverage has been pretty poor on average since the Trestman era. I feel like I don't understand your term of "skying", I think he is kicking it lower and longer leading to his better distance but the coverage isn't able to get there. If he kicked it higher it wouldn't go as far but the covarage would be closer and shorter returns would be the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, Sugashane said: That's my guess as well. We had the most return yards in the league prior to this week, 7th most in the league last year, 10th most the year before that. In 2018 we had the 5th LEAST punt return yards allowed. And in 2017 the 3rd most with over 500. Meanwhile POD's net has been pretty damn close to the same year after year. Boom it and risk the big play (or help the anemic offense) or be safe and try to force the fair catch (but make sure you rarely ever flip the field for your defense). The coaching just seems to be worse than POD. That being said, I don't see what he offers that warrants a higher paycheck than what a decent rookie or cheap FA could do. But without better coaching we might as well just focus on offense and defense and just deal with whatever the ST can do. They aren't getting coached worth a damn on that facet. Tabor is just the tip of the iceberg with this coaching staff...we honestly have no one I would want to keep on the next staff which is really worrying...what might be even more worrying is when you compare our staff to Vic Fanio's in Denver...the fact he was able to take whoever he wanted on both sides of the ball and then add way more talent than we could replace them with shows you that coaches know Nagy is terrible and don't want to come here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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