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ronjon1990

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4 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

A lot of these coaches know each other. It's a profession where networking and relationships make a big difference. Schiano is a well-respected guy with a lot of connections. You better bet that your fanbase turned people off with the way they acted. Nobody buys your principled, moral high ground act. Anyone who knows about Drae Bowles knows just how much your fanbase cares about morals and ethics. They threw a temper tantrum and latched onto hearsay to justify it.

 

1. Exactly. Schiano may have a checkered past to an extent from years past, but the dude has a tone of respect from other coaches. Because 99% of people never know what goes on behind the scenes, inter-coach respect carries a ton of weight. 

2. Yep. Tennessee has, on more than 1 or 2 occasions, shown a disregard for morals and ethics over the last few years. Why jump on Schiano for eons ago? Temper tantrum and character assassination is why. Plain and simple. 

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TitanLegend

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9 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

A lot of these coaches know each other. It's a profession where networking and relationships make a big difference. Schiano is a well-respected guy with a lot of connections. You better bet that your fanbase turned people off with the way they acted. Nobody buys your principled, moral high ground act. Anyone who knows about Drae Bowles knows just how much your fanbase cares about morals and ethics. They threw a temper tantrum and latched onto hearsay to justify it.

Miami's coach is Mark Richt. Georgia fired Richt. Georgia is a SEC school. The SEC apparently can't attract any good coaches. You see the point here, right? xD

"well respected guy with a lot of connections" lmao. Dude is hated by practically everyone who has ever played for him. Connections maybe, but I don't think someone like Gundy who has actually accomplished things in his coaching life unlike Schiano and isn't a piece of ****(and this isn't even just about the child rape at PSU) is concerned about what our fanbase thinks because he knows he'd be treated like he walks on water if he came here.

Tennessee fan base did UT a favor regardless. Practically anyone they hire now whether it had been Gundy or ends up being Leach, Brohm, Petrino, Sumlin, Miles or whoever is practically guaranteed to be a better football coach.

It shows how stupid our AD is that it took fan revolt for them to go from trying to hire Schiano to actually looking at serious candidates.

And the SEC seemingly can't attract good coaches anymore. Chip left UF at the alter, Gundy turned them down too, so did Frost. They had to settle on Dan Mullen. Tennessee has now been turned down by guys like Gundy and Mullen. Our biggest targets now are sure, a good OC in Tee Martin but the only reason he'd give us the time of day is he's an alum and he's beloved here, and Kevin Steele, yet another good coordinator but again probably only consider us cause he's an alum and is getting up there in years, so probably take any HC chance he gets.

Tennessee and Florida are supposed to be flagship programs of the SEC, right behind Bama. We're forced to go to 3rd/4th/5th options in coaching searches.

Sad state of affairs around here.

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jrry32

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9 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said:

You have no point... I didn’t say the SEC can’t attract any good coaches but listen to of the moron fans and idiot people from media saying coaches beg to coach at an SEC school. Although two supposed premier SEC schools were turned down and had to go with 4th/5th options. Hell, UT was out offering a bum like Schiano after gauging interest from guys like Kelly, Patterson, Peterson, etc. You see my point?

I had a very clear point. Richt had no HC experience when UGA hired him. UGA fired him to hire another guy with no HC experience. And Miami hired a guy from a conference that you were just claiming couldn't attract top coaches. Kind of reflects poorly on Miami, doesn't it? But yea, your logic was just lacking.

And yes, I see your point. It's a dumb and inaccurate point, but I see it. Tennessee isn't a premier SEC program. They've gotten turned down left and right over the past decade. However, their inability to land guys like Kelly, Patterson, Petersen, and Gundy doesn't say much. How often do coaches like that leave their program to make what's essentially a lateral move? And Chip Kelly already had better offers.

As for Kelly turning down UF, if you had asked anyone on this board where Kelly was going to go a month ago, most people would have said UCLA. Most of us Gator fans were pleasantly surprised he was interested in our job. Well, that's even doubtful because IMO he used us to get a better offer from UCLA. As for Frost, everyone and their mother knew he was going to Nebraska.

Your logic here is incredibly stupid. You're basically claiming that the SEC schools aren't attracting coaches because they're not landing reach candidates. The only arguable non-reach candidate was Chip Kelly, and he chose UCLA for obvious reasons. This is like claiming that Texas isn't attracting great coaches because they couldn't land Saban.

And Schiano is a bum? Puhlease. Rutgers hadn't been to a bowl since 1978 before he got there. There's a reason he got hired to coach in the NFL. He's a legit coach. Tennessee fans are just dumb.

No rational person thinks that the SEC is such a strong draw that they can land literally anyone. However, it is undoubtedly considered the top conference in college football. That does mean something. But I guess if/when TAMU lands Jimbo Fisher, I should come back here and start crowing about that?

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2 minutes ago, TitanLegend said:

"well respected guy with a lot of connections" lmao. Dude is hated by practically everyone who has ever played for him. Connections maybe, but I don't think someone like Gundy who has actually accomplished things in his coaching life unlike Schiano and isn't a piece of ****(and this isn't even just about the child rape at PSU) is concerned about what our fanbase thinks because he knows he'd be treated like he walks on water if he came here.

Tennessee fan base did UT a favor regardless. Practically anyone they hire now whether it had been Gundy or ends up being Leach, Brohm, Petrino, Sumlin, Miles or whoever is practically guaranteed to be a better football coach.

It shows how stupid our AD is that it took fan revolt for them to go from trying to hire Schiano to actually looking at serious candidates.

And the SEC seemingly can't attract good coaches anymore. Chip left UF at the alter, Gundy turned them down too, so did Frost. They had to settle on Dan Mullen. Tennessee has now been turned down by guys like Gundy and Mullen. Our biggest targets now are sure, a good OC in Tee Martin but the only reason he'd give us the time of day is he's an alum and he's beloved here, and Kevin Steele, yet another good coordinator but again probably only consider us cause he's an alum and is getting up there in years, so probably take any HC chance he gets.

Tennessee and Florida are supposed to be flagship programs of the SEC, right behind Bama. We're forced to go to 3rd/4th/5th options in coaching searches.

Sad state of affairs around here.

But you said they had little to nothing to do with it? 

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3 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said:

ASU expressing interest in Sumlin, Herm Edwards, and Pep Hamilton....

Gimme Sumlin w/ Pep as OC. that's a dang good combo

 

Why would Pep leave his current role at Michigan to be the OC at Arizona State?  The odds of that are slim to none.

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4 minutes ago, TitanLegend said:

"well respected guy with a lot of connections" lmao. Dude is hated by practically everyone who has ever played for him. Connections maybe, but I don't think someone like Gundy who has actually accomplished things in his coaching life unlike Schiano and isn't a piece of ****(and this isn't even just about the child rape at PSU) is concerned about what our fanbase thinks because he knows he'd be treated like he walks on water if he came here.

I don't think Gundy is concerned. I think Gundy doesn't respect the way your fans carry themselves. 

Yes, Schiano has a lot of connections. He's tight with guys like Belichick and Urban Meyer. You don't think other noteworthy coaches are close to the guy?

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Tennessee fan base did UT a favor regardless. Practically anyone they hire now whether it had been Gundy or ends up being Leach, Brohm, Petrino, Sumlin, Miles or whoever is practically guaranteed to be a better football coach.

Until you land another Butch Jones or Derek Dooley. Schiano did an amazing job at Rutgers. It's absolutely silly how you're treating him. They're not hiring Will Muschamp.

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It shows how stupid our AD is that it took fan revolt for them to go from trying to hire Schiano to actually looking at serious candidates.

Or maybe Schiano is a serious candidate, and you're too blind to see it.

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And the SEC seemingly can't attract good coaches anymore. Chip left UF at the alter, Gundy turned them down too, so did Frost. They had to settle on Dan Mullen. Tennessee has now been turned down by guys like Gundy and Mullen. Our biggest targets now are sure, a good OC in Tee Martin but the only reason he'd give us the time of day is he's an alum and he's beloved here, and Kevin Steele, yet another good coordinator but again probably only consider us cause he's an alum and is getting up there in years, so probably take any HC chance he gets.

Frost is going to Nebraska. That has nothing to do with the SEC. Chip Kelly is going to UCLA. Gundy has flirted with teams for years. He's at his alma mater. Odds are that he's doing it for leverage. And if Dan Mullen is "settling," Tennessee might want to try that some time.

Shiiiiiiiiiiiit, by your logic, schools "settled" for a whole lot of great coaches: LSU for Les Miles and Nick Saban, UGA for Mark Richt and Kirby Smart, UF for Steve Spurrier, etc.

Top programs will always be "settling" if you include the reach candidates whom they had no real shot at in the first place.

Although, yea, Tennessee is having to settle because they ran off a perfectly good coach.

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Tennessee and Florida are supposed to be flagship programs of the SEC, right behind Bama. We're forced to go to 3rd/4th/5th options in coaching searches.

Sad state of affairs around here.

 

If you have a competent AD, you're almost never going to get your first choice.

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