ThatJerkDave Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I'm just confused what made people think (despite a complete lack of evidence) that Ivermectin (a very effective antiparasitic) was effective against Covid (a virus, not a parasite). Why couldn't they have picked like fluoxetine or zolpidem instead? I feel like they'd be much less irritating if they were on fluoxetine and zolpidem. What is in Ivermectin? Perhaps it does work. Rogaine and Viagra were meant to be blood pressure medicines, but had different side effects. I have done no research, so I don't know. And to be quite honest, I don't care enough to research if it is effective or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Norm said: Sorry, I know stuff like this is complicated for you, maybe if you knew who you were just talking to, wait wait, nevermind, you're all scared of people who actually do this kind of stuff professionally are you talking to me? i said he had a nice graph from what i believe his claim to be a peer reviewed article. what is the problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I'm just confused what made people think (despite a complete lack of evidence) that Ivermectin (a very effective antiparasitic) was effective against Covid (a virus, not a parasite). Why couldn't they have picked like fluoxetine or zolpidem instead? I feel like they'd be much less irritating if they were on fluoxetine and zolpidem. If ANY of those words you just used were vax ingredients, they would be used to demonize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, Zycho32 said: As much of a frustrating fertilizer fornication show this is turning into(both out there and in this forum), part of me wants to see the NFL respond in a TRUE "Fire and Brimstone" manner. Regulations and agreements with the NFLPA be darned. Show that in terms of Superstar QB Unaccountability, there's only TB12 and everyone else is a poser to be pimp-smacked. I legitimately want them to lay down the law super super hard as well. We absolutely deserve it for enabling this...whatever this was...to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I actually feel a little special now knowing that someone as cool as QAron thinks I'm "woke". that's a compliment, right? Andy Herman said it best: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, ThatJerkDave said: What is in Ivermectin? Perhaps it does work. Rogaine and Viagra were meant to be blood pressure medicines, but had different side effects. I have done no research, so I don't know. And to be quite honest, I don't care enough to research if it is effective or not. There was one now debunked study that said it was an effective treatment. Right wing media went crazy with it and that is the major problem with reporting studies in the social media age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAH1223 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Leader said: This statement would have more merit if the vaccine cost to the patient was substantial - it's not - and the data supports the vaccines success in preventing illness - or preventing serious illness. If it was some huge conspiracy - the healthcare system would welcome people lined up at the hospitals. Everybody should be "hesitant" about going to the hospital. I'll agree that the American healthcare system is overly expensive - but thats primarily because of less government intervention. That said, the ACA is a valuable healthcare tool to millions of Americans. Our "Corporate Capture" government has a hard time freeing itself from the special interests which fight to prevent or curb government involvement. I don’t disagree about the vaccines or the ACA being a good tool. But the hospital system and it’s lobby are a vast criminal conspiracy. American health care's big problem is not enough criminal charges. You don't go to a mechanic and 5 weeks later they send you a $3,000 bill for a 3 dollar filter. I’m referring to surprise billing. And with drugs we see pharma jacking up prices for life saving ones. Even though like the vaccines, the public funded a lot of these drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I'm just confused what made people think (despite a complete lack of evidence) that Ivermectin (a very effective antiparasitic) was effective against Covid (a virus, not a parasite). Why couldn't they have picked like fluoxetine or zolpidem instead? I feel like they'd be much less irritating if they were on fluoxetine and zolpidem. It started because it was noticed that Covid appeared to be less prevalent in countries that had high ivermectin use due to endemic parasitic disease. Then a seemingly large uncontrolled series was published claiming impressive benefit. Unfortunately, the paper was fraudulent. There are still controlled trials that are ongoing, though I haven’t checked their status lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, Norm said: If ANY of those words you just used were vax ingredients, they would be used to demonize it. alternately, if any of those words were used positively by a completely unqualified celebrity that says thinly veiled political things they agree with, they would buy some at Hooves'N'More and add it to their coffee every morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Striker said: Andy Herman said it best: I knew there was a reason that I didn't like him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I'm just confused what made people think (despite a complete lack of evidence) that Ivermectin (a very effective antiparasitic) was effective against Covid (a virus, not a parasite). Why couldn't they have picked like fluoxetine or zolpidem instead? I feel like they'd be much less irritating if they were on fluoxetine and zolpidem. perhaps @shanedorf can shed some light on this, but i'd guess it has something to do with it working in cell culture but not getting to high enough dose in organism to be therapeutically relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: That would require the hospital to actually care and treat you. The last thing they want is you to stay home, they can't bill you for a scan of every inch of your body then. What did you want done? It's a virus, not a bacterial infection with a common penicillin-based/anti-biotics based cure. Your best hope would have been an HIV-like drug with some anti-viral component to it and hope like hell the virus it was designed for was close enough to COVID to have some kind of effect, but it's not like those kinds of medications were approved at that point. Still aren't. They did want people to stay home. They were overcrowded. The "Stay the hell at home if you have minor symptoms because we can't help you" message was loud and clear at that point. The only thing they could do for people is try and make it easier for them to breathe. Either by inhaler or ventilator depending on the severity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: What did you want done? It's a virus, not a bacterial infection with a common penicillin-based/anti-biotics based cure. Your best hope would have been an HIV-like drug with some anti-viral component to it and hope like hell the virus it was designed for was close enough to COVID to have some kind of effect, but it's not like those kinds of medications were approved at that point. Still aren't. They did want people to stay home. They were overcrowded. The "Stay the hell at home if you have minor symptoms because we can't help you" message was loud and clear at that point. The only thing they could do for people is try and make it easier for them to breathe. Either by inhaler or ventilator depending on the severity. Go away I'm trying to hit your mastery of likes within this forum in one day from yesterday or the day before lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 if you care about another dudes vax-status you're lame ooooooops 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: Rodgers is based. I used to not like him. Now I do. Sign him for life. Why don't I hate you? (Because where you're from so I pity you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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