August4th Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, 43M said: Steeler fans see this and get excited for someone like Donte Jackson or Carlton Davis. Then Steelers sign someone like Eli Apple and all that excitement dies. we have cap space, 43. this time is DIFFERENT 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, August4th said: we have cap space, 43. this time is DIFFERENT 🤞 Cap space, but lots of holes to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dcash4 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Be cool if it’s true, but I just can’t get behind anything that has Poni Express associated with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, warfelg said: I dont see it happening. Gonna be too pricey IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Really liked this quote on a pod from Sheil Kapadia: ”Quarterback competency has never been easier to find and it’s never matter less”. Okay doesn’t cut it. The floor has been raise in the league at the position but the ceilings been smashed. If you don’t have someone special, it’s pretty much doesn’t matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: Really liked this quote on a pod from Sheil Kapadia: ”Quarterback competency has never been easier to find and it’s never matter less”. Okay doesn’t cut it. The floor has been raise in the league at the position but the ceilings been smashed. If you don’t have someone special, it’s pretty much doesn’t matter. Ehh. While I dont entirely disagree, I wouldnt exactly call Matt Stafford "special". And some special QBs dont make more than 1 or 2 SBs...if that. Bottom line....you need a good team around a QB, regardless of how good they are. The better the QB, the more they can possibly compensate for...but there are typically no QBs, even great ones, winning rings with bad teams around them. That's why I was so opposed to trading for an extremely expensive vet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 41 minutes ago, 43M said: Ehh. While I dont entirely disagree, I wouldnt exactly call Matt Stafford "special". And some special QBs dont make more than 1 or 2 SBs...if that. Bottom line....you need a good team around a QB, regardless of how good they are. The better the QB, the more they can possibly compensate for...but there are typically no QBs, even great ones, winning rings with bad teams around them. That's why I was so opposed to trading for an extremely expensive vet. I agree with you but I also think it’s a little more amplified being in the AFC. We will be competing against Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, and Burrow for the next decade at least. I think Stafford is right on the line of being “special”. His path to the SB was Kyler who had a complete meltdown and wasn’t ready for the moment, Brady with no weapons, Jimmy G, and then Burrow who is probably the least talented of the 4 AFC QBs mentioned. Either way, it was clear that he could do the things and make the throws needed to win that Jared Goff wasn’t. I think the biggest thing to look at with QBs is can he elevate everyone around him? Can he help mask run game deficiencies (Allen/Mahomes) or make things work with a mediocre O-Line (Burrow/Herbert)? Stafford turned Cooper Kupp into Jerry Rice. Diggs was completely unlocked by Allen. Burrow put a rookie WR on the all-pro team. You get the idea. As Ben declined he turned JuJu into freaking Quincy Enunwa and has clearly hindered Claypool and DJ from taking the next step. The only QBs available that fit this criteria are Deshaun Watson and potentially Malik Willis. If we miss on both of those you might as well pack it in and wait for 2023. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Strafford makes some bone headed plays at times. He has a great team around him. I have not seem him carry the team to victory. Stafford did not make Kupp. Kupp was one of the best WR before Stafford got there but Stafford is worlds better than Groff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 8 hours ago, bigben07MVP said: DJ from taking the next step. DJ prevented DJ from taking the next step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelersFan2333 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I saw an interesting fact this morning, despite the length of time he’s been here, Colbert has NEVER drafted an OT in the first round. I can understand that over a short term, but dudes been in an executive position with us since 2000 and GM for 12 years. Our last first round OT was in 1996 (Jamain Stephens). No wonder it seems like we’re always looking for one… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, warfelg said: DJ prevented DJ from taking the next step. Definitely, but I think Ben/playcalling didn't help either. DJ needs to cook on intermediate stuff. He's not Ryan Switzer or Wes Welker. He doesn't need to be taking shots by linebackers 3 yards in front of the LOS every route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, MOSteelers56 said: Definitely, but I think Ben/playcalling didn't help either. DJ needs to cook on intermediate stuff. He's not Ryan Switzer or Wes Welker. He doesn't need to be taking shots by linebackers 3 yards in front of the LOS every route. He’s also looking to break off every catch for a big one and starts running/looking before seeing the ball into his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Just now, warfelg said: He’s also looking to break off every catch for a big one and starts running/looking before seeing the ball into his hands. Which might be also because he's looking to see if he's about to get his head taken off. I'm not saying DJ's drops aren't primarily on him, I'm just saying the constant short stuff didn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, warfelg said: He’s also looking to break off every catch for a big one and starts running/looking before seeing the ball into his hands. That was what the playbook called for...other than the not looking the ball into his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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