ARTMONK HOF Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, lavar703 said: But don’t you get it? Landon Collins sucks so it’s okay that Saint Rivera did him dirty. My post was about Watson, nothing about Landon Collins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Saw this posted & had to share. Couldn't stop laughing. "Now that we've got Wentz, we could grab Vander Esch and Barkley and go on a revenge tour of the East" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, ARTMONK HOF said: My post was about Watson, nothing about Landon Collins. Your post clearly talked about Landon Collins and Watson sharing an agent and how the team basically screwed Collins over. That’s what I responded too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, lavar703 said: Your post clearly talked about Landon Collins and Watson sharing an agent and how the team basically screwed Collins over. That’s what I responded too My post reflected them sharing an agent who would know what team Watson wants to go to. I knows there’s issues with this team but your fatalistic takes of the team go to different level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ARTMONK HOF said: My post reflected them sharing an agent who would know what team Watson wants to go to. I knows there’s issues with this team but your fatalistic takes of the team go to different level. My fatalistic takes are based on a team making the same mistakes repeatedly for 30 years. I’ve accepted it as notmal for them but it doesn’t mean I’ll just treat it like it’s okay. It’s still aggravating to see them do the same things Ron Rivera was supposed to get rid of. Regardless of one’s feelings of Landon Collins, negotiating a contract restructure in good faith and the reneging said deal gets around the league. I’m sure it’s part of the reason we basically have to force players to come here. So sure, if you think my “fatalistic takes” reach a different level that’s fine however this team is herpes to the rest of the league. That’s an major issue. Edited March 12, 2022 by lavar703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 You keep bringing up Landon Collins my post points out why they moved away from trying to go after Watson. I’m not saying it’s right how they handled LC situation but the post was never about that issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) As Lavar is the most negative human being fan I've never met? He's absolutely correct. Yes, there was a time when going to the Redskins, was like going to the Patriots of today, Tampa Bay, Seattle, Saints ( with Drew), Packers, etc. If they wanted a player, they got him. Not so much today... We are the Saints of the 80's... The Browns of the 90's.. The Lions all the time. But we're worse than that. We have an Owner everyone including fans despise, a field nobody wants to play on & a team name not many are on board with. We are the Bad New Bears, with Hitler as the Manager. And now we're called the Commies, with a Russia/Ukraine war currently going on. That probably doesn't help, either. The only way were getting anyone to play here, is by trade or draft. The only way to be loved again & bring in the fans will be by winning. A lot... I'll also add, that we will sign FA's. No doubt. But we'll either have to overpay, or the players will probably be trying to reboot their career from a history of disappointment. Edited March 12, 2022 by aceinthehouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDog Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said: As Lavar is the most negative human being fan I've never met? He's absolutely correct. Yes, there was a time when going to the Redskins, was like going to the Patriots of today, Tampa Bay, Seattle, Saints ( with Drew), Packers, etc. If they wanted a player, they got him. Not so much today... We are the Saints of the 80's... The Browns of the 90's.. The Lions all the time. But we're worse than that. We have an Owner everyone including fans despise, a field nobody wants to play on & a team name not many are on board with. We are the Bad New Bears, with Hitler as the Manager. And now we're called the Commies, with a Russia/Ukraine war currently going on. That probably doesn't help, either. The only way were getting anyone to play here, is by trade or draft. The only way to be loved again & bring in the fans will be by winning. A lot... I'll also add, that we will sign FA's. No doubt. But we'll either have to overpay, or the players will probably be trying to reboot their career from a history of disappointment. Eh, I don't know. Is it harder for us to get a star or someone in HIGH demand - absolutely. But we were supposedly against that thing now anyway and wanted the team to build the "right way" anyway. There are guys who like Ron, or who like what Ron or Scott or Jack's schemes can do for their career etc. who will want to come here. There are guys who played against us or Carson Wentz in really good competitive games, who don't buy all the media spin, and fell they can help us get over the top. The biggest impediment will be what it is for most teams paying a starting QB - the cap room. I hope we don't go crazy. I hope we pick up some guys who can help, who aren't the names NFL network talking heads are talking about every segment. And I think we will So cheer up ACE!!!! (no hope for Lavar) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 @MacDog The funny thing is I used to be super positive and support all of their stupid moves and decisions. I’m 36 going on 37, I’ve probably missed 2 games in the last 20+ years. What pisses me of so much is I do love this team and I want to win. However, my issues arise when every single move they make comes with a caveat. I would be totally fine with this Carson Wentz trade had they not been totally swindled and then it gets excused away as “well Wentz wouldn’t have come here if he had options”. Do people not realize that’s not a good thing? Like, we really have to trade for players because they won’t willingly come here. Rivera was supposed to change that but it only appears to be getting worse. So yes, at this point I’m extremely negative about their moves. I’m very upset they’re allowing all of their free agents to test the market so they can counteroffer which might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I hate that they were taken to the cleaners in this Wentz trade and I hate that we fired a young and upcoming front office member so Rivera could hire three former failed GMs all due to them being his buddies. I’d love for them to win and everything to be great again but they have to genuinely want to do that. I don’t think they’re that concerned about winning as @PARROTHEADhas alluded to many times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, lavar703 said: @MacDog The funny thing is I used to be super positive and support all of their stupid moves and decisions. I’m 36 going on 37, I’ve probably missed 2 games in the last 20+ years. What pisses me of so much is I do love this team and I want to win. However, my issues arise when every single move they make comes with a caveat. I would be totally fine with this Carson Wentz trade had they not been totally swindled and then it gets excused away as “well Wentz wouldn’t have come here if he had options”. Do people not realize that’s not a good thing? Like, we really have to trade for players because they won’t willingly come here. Rivera was supposed to change that but it only appears to be getting worse. So yes, at this point I’m extremely negative about their moves. I’m very upset they’re allowing all of their free agents to test the market so they can counteroffer which might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I hate that they were taken to the cleaners in this Wentz trade and I hate that we fired a young and upcoming front office member so Rivera could hire three former failed GMs all due to them being his buddies. I’d love for them to win and everything to be great again but they have to genuinely want to do that. I don’t think they’re that concerned about winning as @PARROTHEADhas alluded to many times. Love the passion @lavar703 I understand the 30 years of frustration. I’m right there with you on wanting great things for this team. Even though we don’t agree with the many directions this team goes in we hope we’re wrong and it turns out to be positive for a change. Just need some luck and make sure we can get rid of Snyder so this team can ascend to better times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 As they say-Winning fixes eveything 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I'll be damn... Rivera must be tracking my posts...lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said: I'll be damn... Rivera must be tracking my posts...lol "Set free on Monday". I thought he was F A . ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: "Set free on Monday". I thought he was F A . ?? Maybe teams have until Monday to sign their own players -I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I think we are about to add Ertz to the team, guys. Keep your fingers crossed. Arizona is wanting to re-sign him, but they only got about 5.4m in cap space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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