persiandud Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Norm said: Just go now and save yourself the pain lol. We're going to lose. I just know it is this reverse psychology or reverse jinx or something y u do dis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, persiandud said: is this reverse psychology or reverse jinx or something y u do dis My split personality can't decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, incognito_man said: yeah, the real apples-to-apples would simply be yards per route compared to yards per non-route. Can't even really use numbers from alignments because he gets rushing yards (end-arounds) when lined up in slot as well. So I'm not sure of a good way to actually figure it out. I’ve been thinking about this also, and I agree, it’s difficult to compute, especially trying to compare Kupp to Deebo. Deebo is dangerous in space, and Shanny (well, technically Jimmy) gets him the ball in a variety of ways - notably bubble screens and reverses - which is atypical in the traditional sense of passing to him downfield or just handing him the ball for veers and dives. So regardless of how he gets the ball, he’s averaging a dangerous YPA because of how he’s schemed and his ability to break tackles. Kupp is equally as dangerous because he just finds holes and seams in the defense and his YAC are solid. Both dangerous, both used quite differently. Edited January 19, 2022 by Sasquatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) What red-zone efficiency rating often miss is teams that can and do score from outside the red-zone with some regularity, and defenses that take the ball away a lot. Here are some numbers that might make you wait to approach that Bridge persiandud Turnover differential #3 GB +13 - Takeaways -- 18 INT's -- 8 Fumbles = 26 TA - Giveaways -- 7 INT's (3 by Love) -- 6 Fumbles = 13 GA #23 SF -4 - Takeaways -- 9 INT's -- 11 Fumbles = 20 - Giveaways -- 14 INT's -- 10 Fumbles = 24 GA Edited January 19, 2022 by BAM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, BAM said: What red-zone efficiency rating often miss is teams that can and do score from outside the red-zone with some regularity, and defenses that take the ball away a lot. Here are some numbers that might make you wait to approach that Bridge persiandud Turnover differential #3 GB +13 - Takeaways -- 18 INT's -- 8 Fumbles = 26 TA vs Giveaways -- 7 INT's (3 by Love) -- 6 Fumbles = 13 #3 SF -4 - Takeaways -- 9 INT's -- 11 Fumbles = 20 vs Giveaways -- 14 INT's -- 10 Fumbles = 24 This is helpful, and when considering the weather conditions on Saturday, it could really help GB if they win the turnover battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, incognito_man said: yeah, the real apples-to-apples would simply be yards per route compared to yards per non-route. Can't even really use numbers from alignments because he gets rushing yards (end-arounds) when lined up in slot as well. So I'm not sure of a good way to actually figure it out. Just FYI - yards per target is almost 12, yards per route is a little over 3. He's number one in yards per target, #4 in yards per route 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Deebo is a beast, I'm terrified of him lol he's a legit game changer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: Ray's logic is sound. He's saying that Deebo averages 12yds more per catch than run, so letting him run is statistically better for defense than letting him catch. i.e. the fewer routes he's running, the better for opponents (YPT would be a better comparison than YPC tho) If it is a running play, deebo being a blocker is not using his skillet to its maximal potential. His routes run don't go up or down whether he is blocking on a run play or carrying the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Forge said: Just FYI - yards per target is almost 12, yards per route is a little over 3. He's number one in yards per target, #4 in yards per route What’s scary is a lot of his targets are at or near the line of scrimmage. Shanny knows he’s safer asking Jimmy to get Deebo the ball quick and close, as opposed slinging it downfield, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, BAM said: What red-zone efficiency rating often miss is teams that can and do score from outside the red-zone with some regularity, and defenses that take the ball away a lot. Here are some numbers that might make you wait to approach that Bridge persiandud Turnover differential #3 GB +13 - Takeaways -- 18 INT's -- 8 Fumbles = 26 TA vs Giveaways -- 7 INT's (3 by Love) -- 6 Fumbles = 13 #3 SF -4 - Takeaways -- 9 INT's -- 11 Fumbles = 20 vs Giveaways -- 14 INT's -- 10 Fumbles = 24 Red zone efficiency doesn't miss either of those aspects. It doesn't even attempt to measure those aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, persiandud said: Deebo is a beast, I'm terrified of him lol he's a legit game changer Whatever we did last time worked .. he was a non factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, {Family Ghost} said: Whatever we did last time worked .. he was a non factor. they didn't use him the same way they have lately tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLcheesehead12 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Forge said: This dude is a troll....take this with less than a grain of salt. Shanny has already said Jimmy is a go to practice all week. I figured even if Garropolo was going to be sore there, no way he was sitting out this one unless his shoulder was actually fully broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, LLcheesehead12 said: I figured even if Garropolo was going to be sore there, no way he was sitting out this one unless his shoulder was actually fully broken Yeah, I mean, technically it wouldn't be the craziest thing if he missed the game, but you won't know until friday, and certainly not before they practice a single time. If he's going to be out, it'll be because they put him through the rigors of practice and exacerbated the injury or he just couldn't throw effectively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaire_Island Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, persiandud said: they didn't use him the same way they have lately tbh But they used. He definitely did have 3-4 rushes at the starting of the game all went 1-2 yards. Then they didn’t use him as RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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