Fire Maurice Drayton And Give MLF, Gute and Murphy The Ultimatum

[LLcheesehead12]

30 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

So basically you're just mad that every draft pick isn't a quality starter?

That would be more than half of his offensive picks

[squire12]

Just now, LLcheesehead12 said:

I don't consider them Clifton or Tauscher level

So if 1st or 2nd year guys are studs they suck.  Got it.

[AlexGreen#20]

14 minutes ago, LLcheesehead12 said:

That would be more than half of his offensive picks

Yeah dude, the hit rate on first round picks is 50%. 

If you expect your GM to hit on 50% of mid rounds picks, your expectations simply aren't in line with reality.

[Norm]

You just need to save right before the draft then when the draft is over, check everyone's overalls and if some are bad, just reload your save. It's ******* easy. I do it all the time. Gute sucks.

[AlexGreen#20]

1 hour ago, LLcheesehead12 said:

I don't consider them Clifton or Tauscher level

No duh, are you expecting pro bowl caliber tackles from UDFAs???

[R T]

2 hours ago, LLcheesehead12 said:

There's been some things which it's kinda hard to tell whether or not it's Gute who should be blamed, or if it's more LaFleur, or if it's both.

Now let me preface by saying I 100% agree on most of what you said.

Gute has done a great job with the defense, and that shouldn't be spoken of lightly, especially after years of seeing that unit struggle.  Hell I would have been perfectly happy if this game had been an ugly 13-3 win by us with the defense being the winners as they would have very much been without our awful special teams screwing it up.

But that doesn't excuse that a lot of his offensive draft picks and even a couple free agent signings have turned out to be disasters.

I'll give him AJ Dillon, great RB that we needed, and MVS for giving the offense a deep threat when he's out there.

But his OL picks outside of Meyers and Jenkins have looked bad, his WRs like Jimon Moore, already gone, and ESB have been raddy.  And don't even get me started on what an awful signing Jimmy Graham was, or the fact that Sternberger has already washed out and Deguara, good lord he can't be kicked outta here soon enough.  He also wouldn't have brought Cobb back without Rodgers requesting it, and .... well we had better hope Amari Rodgers turns into something special or there goes another one.

We are all now dumber for having read this. 

[Norm]

14 hours ago, R T said:

We are all now dumber for having read this. 

I'm pretty sure we are being messed with

[incognito_man]

1 hour ago, Norm said:

I'm pretty sure we are being messed with

You're an optimist

[HokieHigh]

On 1/24/2022 at 2:50 PM, LLcheesehead12 said:

This is one reason I'm still pissed at Gute despite his fixing the defense.  His 2 TE draft picks have been garbage, and almost no picks for the offense outside of Dillon (and to some degree MVS) have turned out at all.  Hard to blame Rodgers wanting Cobb back when your GM is inept at making offense draft picks.

Ultimatum on Mark Murphy, Gute and LaFleur .... Win the SB this next season period or you all get fired.  That's right I said it, we gotta fire everyone if there's one more playoff failure.

I just don't think it would serve the Packers well to reset everything.

[mikemike778]

23 hours ago, LLcheesehead12 said:

There's been some things which it's kinda hard to tell whether or not it's Gute who should be blamed, or if it's more LaFleur, or if it's both.

Now let me preface by saying I 100% agree on most of what you said.

Gute has done a great job with the defense, and that shouldn't be spoken of lightly, especially after years of seeing that unit struggle.  Hell I would have been perfectly happy if this game had been an ugly 13-3 win by us with the defense being the winners as they would have very much been without our awful special teams screwing it up.

But that doesn't excuse that a lot of his offensive draft picks and even a couple free agent signings have turned out to be disasters.

I'll give him AJ Dillon, great RB that we needed, and MVS for giving the offense a deep threat when he's out there.

But his OL picks outside of Meyers and Jenkins have looked bad, his WRs like Jimon Moore, already gone, and ESB have been raddy.  And don't even get me started on what an awful signing Jimmy Graham was, or the fact that Sternberger has already washed out and Deguara, good lord he can't be kicked outta here soon enough.  He also wouldn't have brought Cobb back without Rodgers requesting it, and .... well we had better hope Amari Rodgers turns into something special or there goes another one.

Re the OL

Our best two OL have been injured most of the season and at times we were fielding our second string. Generally speaking the OL has held up extremely well despite the fact that we have  at times fielded three rookies (two of which were late rounders) and a raw UDFA.

You could argue we should have invested higher picks into the OL if you like.  But so far, we have got fantastic value out of the picks we have used. Put simply you are wrong. Even Newman who has got some criticism has done reasonably well considering he is a 3rd day rookie.

[coachbuns]

On 1/26/2022 at 7:24 PM, LLcheesehead12 said:

There's been some things which it's kinda hard to tell whether or not it's Gute who should be blamed, or if it's more LaFleur, or if it's both.

Now let me preface by saying I 100% agree on most of what you said.

Gute has done a great job with the defense, and that shouldn't be spoken of lightly, especially after years of seeing that unit struggle.  Hell I would have been perfectly happy if this game had been an ugly 13-3 win by us with the defense being the winners as they would have very much been without our awful special teams screwing it up.

But that doesn't excuse that a lot of his offensive draft picks and even a couple free agent signings have turned out to be disasters.

I'll give him AJ Dillon, great RB that we needed, and MVS for giving the offense a deep threat when he's out there.

But his OL picks outside of Meyers and Jenkins have looked bad, his WRs like Jimon Moore, already gone, and ESB have been raddy.  And don't even get me started on what an awful signing Jimmy Graham was, or the fact that Sternberger has already washed out and Deguara, good lord he can't be kicked outta here soon enough.  He also wouldn't have brought Cobb back without Rodgers requesting it, and .... well we had better hope Amari Rodgers turns into something special or there goes another one.

Wow, just when I think there can't be a post that makes me wonder what the hell, wham, there it is.  LOL .. just makes one LOL.

[Chili]

Phew! we dodged this one. 😅

 

 

 

[Billy86]

On 1/27/2022 at 3:43 AM, R T said:

We are all now dumber for having read this. 

I also love what I can absolutely guarantee is their hindsight on the AJ Dillon pick. There's no way they have a go at some of the things they did and were not doing so on that one last year. 

Also, if Bakh and Jenkins were fully healthy we have probably got the deepest line in the league right now (though there way be some cha ges before next season), it's actually a little obscene. 

[Pugger]

On 1/26/2022 at 8:24 PM, LLcheesehead12 said:

There's been some things which it's kinda hard to tell whether or not it's Gute who should be blamed, or if it's more LaFleur, or if it's both.

Now let me preface by saying I 100% agree on most of what you said.

Gute has done a great job with the defense, and that shouldn't be spoken of lightly, especially after years of seeing that unit struggle.  Hell I would have been perfectly happy if this game had been an ugly 13-3 win by us with the defense being the winners as they would have very much been without our awful special teams screwing it up.

But that doesn't excuse that a lot of his offensive draft picks and even a couple free agent signings have turned out to be disasters.

I'll give him AJ Dillon, great RB that we needed, and MVS for giving the offense a deep threat when he's out there.

But his OL picks outside of Meyers and Jenkins have looked bad, his WRs like Jimon Moore, already gone, and ESB have been raddy.  And don't even get me started on what an awful signing Jimmy Graham was, or the fact that Sternberger has already washed out and Deguara, good lord he can't be kicked outta here soon enough.  He also wouldn't have brought Cobb back without Rodgers requesting it, and .... well we had better hope Amari Rodgers turns into something special or there goes another one.

His other OL picks have looked bad?  What is wrong with Runyan or Nijman?   Gute also got Turner and Kelly via FA.  It is a shame about Tonyan.  I think Deguara was drafted as an H back and not a receiving TE.  I don't blame Gute for getting Cobb even tho Rodgers asked him to.  We probably needed a veteran presence in that WR room besides Adams.  But it was headscratching that Cobby wasn't used more in that divisional playoff game on Saturday.  We could have used MVS in that game too.  

[pf9]

It's been almost a week since our elimination why is LaFleur still coach?