Dcash4 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 I have no faith in Matt Canada, but I haven't seen anything report wise suggesting this is a copy and paste scheme from last year. We already see tons and tons of posts about play action, moving pockets, and throwing down the seams. So far, there's nothing to suggest this isn't a different offensive scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 Nothing crazy about this tweet, but it followed seeing Gunner had two drops in 7 shots. I don't mean to root against Gunner, I liked the signing when we made it....But I really am pulling for Anthony Miller. DJ, Claypool, Pickens, Miller, and Austin makes a really nice sounding top 5 receivers. Throw in the gunner/ST winner of White and Boykin and I like the 6. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: Nothing crazy about this tweet, but it followed seeing Gunner had two drops in 7 shots. I don't mean to root against Gunner, I liked the signing when we made it....But I really am pulling for Anthony Miller. DJ, Claypool, Pickens, Miller, and Austin makes a really nice sounding top 5 receivers. Throw in the gunner/ST winner of White and Boykin and I like the 6. I agree completely with the Gunner sentiment. Miller is a far more complete player and probably not much of a downgrade on return abilities. I think their special teams coverage will probably be the deciding factor. I know Gunner is supposed to be a good...gunner...as well as returner. That's a weird sentence. That's why I think we keep Boykin and Miller as our bottom WRs. Boykin is a good coverage guy, Miller can be a returner and solid slot option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: I have no faith in Matt Canada, but I haven't seen anything report wise suggesting this is a copy and paste scheme from last year. We already see tons and tons of posts about play action, moving pockets, and throwing down the seams. So far, there's nothing to suggest this isn't a different offensive scheme. I have missed these reports, but I did see Kaboly saying the offense looks the same to him. I have seen the passing numbers and play-by-plays done by Depot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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warfelg Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Dcash4 said: I have no faith in Matt Canada, but I haven't seen anything report wise suggesting this is a copy and paste scheme from last year. We already see tons and tons of posts about play action, moving pockets, and throwing down the seams. So far, there's nothing to suggest this isn't a different offensive scheme. I think it’s in the playcalling that we will see the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 hours ago, warfelg said: I think it’s in the playcalling that we will see the difference. You are right, that should definitely be a part of it. Reading Kaboly's comment in an answer to a reader question, he seems to just be alluding to the similarity of a short, quick passing game. Sure that could be a copy over in philosophy, but it won't have to mean it's the same offense. Similarities don't mean the same. You can have success with that scheme in the NFL, but it can't be your only thing and thanks to Ben's actual physical limitations -- it was. We already see them putting in the building blocks of moving QBs, under center alignment, play action, more jet motion, and even using the middle of the field based on TC reports. Those are the things Ben wouldn't/couldn't do. There are more tools in the belt to counter defenses and open up short game. I still have no faith Canada is the guy to do it....but at least this year there are options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Kinda an aside but:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Dcash4 said: You are right, that should definitely be a part of it. Reading Kaboly's comment in an answer to a reader question, he seems to just be alluding to the similarity of a short, quick passing game. Sure that could be a copy over in philosophy, but it won't have to mean it's the same offense. Similarities don't mean the same. You can have success with that scheme in the NFL, but it can't be your only thing and thanks to Ben's actual physical limitations -- it was. We already see them putting in the building blocks of moving QBs, under center alignment, play action, more jet motion, and even using the middle of the field based on TC reports. Those are the things Ben wouldn't/couldn't do. There are more tools in the belt to counter defenses and open up short game. I still have no faith Canada is the guy to do it....but at least this year there are options. If they make the offense look like the SF offense I would be happy. That offense has a lot of motion on every play and does a good job of scheming the receivers open. I do not trust Canada to call plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Dcash4 said: You are right, that should definitely be a part of it. Reading Kaboly's comment in an answer to a reader question, he seems to just be alluding to the similarity of a short, quick passing game. Sure that could be a copy over in philosophy, but it won't have to mean it's the same offense. Similarities don't mean the same. You can have success with that scheme in the NFL, but it can't be your only thing and thanks to Ben's actual physical limitations -- it was. We already see them putting in the building blocks of moving QBs, under center alignment, play action, more jet motion, and even using the middle of the field based on TC reports. Those are the things Ben wouldn't/couldn't do. There are more tools in the belt to counter defenses and open up short game. I still have no faith Canada is the guy to do it....but at least this year there are options. Problem with Kaboly is, while a good one of crafting stories, he’s not great at describing offenses. Sure, some of last years offense was likely Canada based principals of quick hitting, screens, even the pistol. But go back and watch his last college steps and you would know what you are seeing from last year is a very neutered Canada offense. Like you said, the motions, sweeps, MOF, heck even combo routes were missing. I would look for the offense on the surface (quick passing, formations) to look similar, but that’s about it. Do I have blind faith in Canada? No. Do I think it can get worse than last year? No. Do I think the offense will start faster? Absolutely. I’ll pick on that last point a second. I think that Ben was very uncomfortable in 2020 with Canadas influence, didn’t like running his offense in 2021, and the offense was clunky because Ben was resisting those things. Then at the end just went to his comfort zone and it got us a win. I think having QBs brought in that have comfort with these concepts, have familiarity with what it means for reads, and buying into running the offense from snap 1 can make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Roquan Smith has requested a trade. I wouldn’t mind Khan poking around that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, warfelg said: Roquan Smith has requested a trade. I wouldn’t mind Khan poking around that. Devin Bush + 4th round pick enough to get it done? Maybe we could throw in Boykin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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August4th Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 sounds like pickens is having another good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, warfelg said: Roquan Smith has requested a trade. I wouldn’t mind Khan poking around that. Boy the Bears are taking a kick in the teeth lately. We should try to swing Fields too while we're at it! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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