Norm Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: That guy actually said that before Look at Mr Memory over here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 2 hours ago, incognito_man said: As they say: "What happens in London, will someday have had happened in London" "The future will be better tomorrow," some ex-president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: "The future will be better tomorrow," some ex-president. Lol. He was president???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svp Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Dude sleeps in his own hyperbowlyic chamber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 1:56 PM, vegas492 said: If you Gosh Darned Mer Fers would stop talking about a curse, reverse curse or jinx, this would would all be fine. But no, a few guys get their panties up with a$$es about this thread and then we get what we've got here. Get back to topic. Christian Watson has done darned little in the NFL for his career. Pinning the hopes of a flailing offense on him is a very dangerous proposition. Wait till he comes back and shows his dropsies, again. Yeah, that'll be fun. As someone once told me, he's the most overhyped player in the last few years. And he's living up to it. No one could have foreseen Watson’s unsure hands, his injuries, or his inability to acclimate to an NFL route tree. It’s not like anyone called for Pickens over Watson for those reasons on draft day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, ChaRisMa said: No one could have foreseen Watson’s unsure hands, his injuries, or his inability to acclimate to an NFL route tree. It’s not like anyone called for Pickens over Watson for those reasons on draft day. DOUBLE DOWN BABY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 47 minutes ago, ChaRisMa said: No one could have foreseen Watson’s unsure hands, his injuries, or his inability to acclimate to an NFL route tree. It’s not like anyone called for Pickens over Watson for those reasons on draft day. If there is another position other than quarterback this organization deserves a pass on regarding their draft grading is WR. You could absolutely add offensive line to this as well. Are you kidding me with how many great WR picks we made over the past say 15-20 years. I was a pick Pickens fan, but our young WR group is stacked. Watson is going to be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccecilnosebleed Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Old Guy said: If there is another position other than quarterback this organization deserves a pass on regarding their draft grading is WR. You could absolutely add offensive line to this as well. Are you kidding me with how many great WR picks we made over the past say 15-20 years. I was a pick Pickens fan, but our young WR group is stacked. Watson is going to be fine. Fine being the key word. And I’m not saying I’m doubting, and I’m not ashamed to admit there was a couple of years there where I thought for sure Davante was a bust too (as did many on this board). But Watson still has to prove he can keep it up, and if he can’t get on the field for a whole seasons worth of games or at least close, it’s going to be hard for anyone to see him as a WR1. I don’t disagree with this team’s ability to find quality WRs, but to pretend Watson is a lock to be a star at this point is cart before horse. And as good as Pickens seems to be talent wise, he also appears to be a dumpster fire just waiting to be lit if things don’t work out in his favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Old Guy said: If there is another position other than quarterback this organization deserves a pass on regarding their draft grading is WR. You could absolutely add offensive line to this as well. Are you kidding me with how many great WR picks we made over the past say 15-20 years. I was a pick Pickens fan, but our young WR group is stacked. Watson is going to be fine. The same people don’t scout for the Packers as 10-15 years ago. Okay? None of the same scouts. None of the same executive staff. None of it. The Green Bay Packers aren’t a person they’re a business that’s a revolving door of employees making decisions. And while we’ve only changed GMs once in that time, everyone else is constantly changing. There is NO correlation between the current staff and drafting anything other than OL well. No trends. Nothing. Gute’s done well drafting OL. The rest has been a crap shoot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, ChaRisMa said: The same people don’t scout for the Packers as 10-15 years ago. Okay? None of the same scouts. None of the same executive staff. None of it. The Green Bay Packers aren’t a person they’re a business that’s a revolving door of employees making decisions. And while we’ve only changed GMs once in that time, everyone else is constantly changing. There is NO correlation between the current staff and drafting anything other than OL well. No trends. Nothing. Gute’s done well drafting OL. The rest has been a crap shoot. You don't scout for the Packers either, as much as you believe you think you do/can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, ChaRisMa said: The same people don’t scout for the Packers as 10-15 years ago. Okay? None of the same scouts. None of the same executive staff. None of it. The Green Bay Packers aren’t a person they’re a business that’s a revolving door of employees making decisions. And while we’ve only changed GMs once in that time, everyone else is constantly changing. There is NO correlation between the current staff and drafting anything other than OL well. No trends. Nothing. Gute’s done well drafting OL. The rest has been a crap shoot. Brian Gutekunst: 1998 - 2011 - Scout Green Bay Packers 2012 - 2015 - Director of College Scouting 2015-2016 - Direct of Player Personnel 2017 - Present - General Manager Anything else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Norm said: You don't scout for the Packers either, as much as you believe you think you do/can. It’s an absolutely desolate Internet forum and I’m a random nobody fan that just wants to shout his complaints about his team into somewhere that isn’t a guaranteed echo chamber so I can maybe learn a little about the team and game I follow. I don’t actually care about any of this. It’s for fun. It’s fun to try to decipher how players will do in the NFL. You’re on footballsfuture.com—what did you come here for? For the ****posting? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Brian Gutekunst: 1998 - 2011 - Scout Green Bay Packers 2012 - 2015 - Director of College Scouting 2015-2016 - Direct of Player Personnel 2017 - Present - General Manager Anything else? How many people do you think mold a draft pick into being made? I listed Gute as the one holdover. And as you can see, his opinion wasn’t the final say until… J’Mon Moore. MVS. EQ. Amari Rodgers. Watson. Doubs. Reed. Wicks. Gute stinks at drafting WRs. Jayden Reed looks better than all but Watson/Doubs though. At least nothing higher than a third busted. So maybe we have Gute’s best three in the last two drafts. Me thinks Wicks finds his way into an Allen Lazard size role at this point too. More PT than he should as they try to use his body in the run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, ChaRisMa said: How many people do you think mold a draft pick into being made? I listed Gute as the one holdover. And as you can see, his opinion wasn’t the final say until… J’Mon Moore. MVS. EQ. Amari Rodgers. Watson. Doubs. Reed. Wicks. Gute stinks at drafting WRs. Jayden Reed looks better than all but Watson/Doubs though. At least nothing higher than a third busted. So maybe we have Gute’s best three in the last two drafts. Me thinks Wicks finds his way into an Allen Lazard size role at this point too. More PT than he should as they try to use his body in the run game. Bust. Hit. Hit. Bust. Looks good. Looks good. Looks good. Looks good. THIS GUY STINKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, ChaRisMa said: The same people don’t scout for the Packers as 10-15 years ago. Okay? None of the same scouts. None of the same executive staff. None of it. The Green Bay Packers aren’t a person they’re a business that’s a revolving door of employees making decisions. And while we’ve only changed GMs once in that time, everyone else is constantly changing. There is NO correlation between the current staff and drafting anything other than OL well. No trends. Nothing. Gute’s done well drafting OL. The rest has been a crap shoot. Jon-Eric Sullivan has been scouting for the Packers for 19 years. Sam Seale has been scouting for the Packers for 28 years. Gute and all the rest of these guys are following a model set by Ron Wolf decades ago. There is a lot more continuity than you think. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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