Jlowe22 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, RuskieTitan said: Tolerance is irrelevant. Blood alcohol content is what matters. For a 180 lb man his BAC after 1 hour is .084%, which is over the legal limit of .08. If he downs his 5 beers and immediately sets out to drive, he's going to be driving drunk. You want to keep adjusting for tolerance, other factors. I simply picked 5 and 25 as an example. You may use any number you wish, but the point is breaking the law by 1% is still breaking the law. And I'm saying a .084 is not the same as a .15. Legally they're both gonna be a DUI, but .15 is much more likely to end badly for everyone on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Carmen Cygni said: Good luck explaining the nuances of such a situation to the victim, or one that involves children and/or DCS. The victim and children involved are affected much of the same no matter the degree of the instance. Also, as I noted earlier, rarely is such behavior an isolated incidence. May I interject a point of view that the victim involved was a sibling, or offspring. How then would you respond? How then would I respond? To that? I probably ask my daughter/sister/cousin what was happening, and depending on if she tells me anything or not I keep a close eye on the situation from then forward. Ray Rice situation? I go to prison for 1st degree murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 It's really hard to see much of anything in that video. I don't think he'll be suspended. Really would like to hold onto him as a Dolphins fan but it seems the current regime wants to move on. Sad, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, Jlowe22 said: And I'm saying a .084 is not the same as a .15. Legally they're both gonna be a DUI, but .15 is much more likely to end badly for everyone on the road. Unless the .15 is a guy who lives a mile from the bar on a back road with no other residents or business between the two, and the other is occurring at 6:30 in the morning while the guy has to travel through two different school zones. Which just goes to show there are a billion different factors that can determine what ends up more likely to end badly, but the one constant is both are illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, RuskieTitan said: Unless the .15 is a guy who lives a mile from the bar on a back road with no other residents or business between the two, and the other is occurring at 6:30 in the morning while the guy has to travel through two different school zones. Which just goes to show there are a billion different factors that can determine what ends up more likely to end badly, but the one constant is both are illegal. Given equal driving conditions, .15 is worse than .084. It just is. Knocking a girl unconscious is worse than a small shove. And I'm not even saying Landry shouldn't be punished, I come form the school that you don't put your hands on a woman unless it is necessary to prevent someone from getting hurt. But the Ray Rice incident was clearly worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Both actions can be illegal but one can still be more damaging than the other. In US courts, that is the whole purpose of a verdict... lesser punishments for technical violators and greater punishments for particularly heinous or malicious violations of the same crime. This concept isn't that hard to grasp. It's hard to see what's even going on in this video, I don't think anyone can infer much from it. And even if it is domestic violence there is no way it's on the same level as the Ray Rice incident. I'd be shocked if the NFL went back on it and suspended him, now. Will probably hurt his chances at scoring big in FA.. which may actually help us retain him lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webmaster Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Let's get back to football. We don't need to debate DUIs and other off-topic discussion that has nothing to do with football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLadd Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 NFL should've suspended him either way. It would've been over by now if they did, but with the video out now they're going to overeact to the video or not do anything at all and they'll get hate for it either way. Amazing how people can go off topic so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 hours ago, RuskieTitan said: That's it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Less evidence there is, the harsher the punishment. More evidence there is, the lesser the punishment. -Roger Goodell, Discipline Procedure 101 Written and approved by Roger Goodell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Going to give my 2 cents as someone with a CRJ background - there are levels to everything. There’s a reason why things like 1st degree and 2nd degree exist, and sure you can classify incidents under one paint brush, but you’ll see both legally and in the court of public opinion that egregiousness comes into the equation more often than not. I think the NFL took that into consideration along with the poor quality of the video and that’s why they elected to let Landry skate. In my opinion, it’s clear he was acting aggressively, but some of the superlatives being thrown around might be a little over the top. I don’t imagine this really having a huge effect on his career as a football player unless this becomes a habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyJag Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 7 hours ago, cddolphin said: You simply can't change your tune after closing the investigation just because Joe Schmo saw the video and it made him angsty. but............they already did once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Jaguarfan said: but............they already did once? Yes.. and is everyone forgetting that Rice appealed that decision and it was reversed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Dude is overrated anyway... Averages like 7 yards a catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 He will be suspended for 6 games minimum, so Goddell can prove he's impartial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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