BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 11 hours ago, dll2000 said: It doesn’t matter if it is real. The perception is real. I know, we've talked about how the perception is there. I'm talking about how that perception gets created, and saying the endless echoing of cable news points every time Chicago gets mentioned has as much to do with it as anything. Not sure we need it here as it's essentially just bringing poltiics and the endless culture war into a football forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, malagabears said: So much mis-direction I honestly don't what is going on: The Bears are trading Arlington Heights to Las Vegas for Circus Circus and a Criss Angel residency. They’re gonna build a new stadium on Justin Fields meanwhile the taxpayers will all receive a pair of White Sox and a jar containing a piece of the lakefront—fought for by Kevin Warren. He’s demanding that everyone call their jar of the lakefront their own “Warren Piece” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW said: I know, we've talked about how the perception is there. I'm talking about how that perception gets created, and saying the endless echoing of cable news points every time Chicago gets mentioned has as much to do with it as anything. Not sure we need it here as it's essentially just bringing poltiics and the endless culture war into a football forum. That wasn’t my intent. I went to family fest last year. The issue for me personally is convenience not fear. Just saying it is a real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 is this not what Warren did in MN tho? They had a site in the burbs, then did a publicly owned stadium in the city but managed to pay off all the debt 23 years early. just dont know if it's privately owned now because that debt is paid off imo the bears need that privately owned stadium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, HuskieBear said: imo the bears need that privately owned stadium The reason they brought Warren in was to get the stadium deal done, yes. BUT it was also to enhance the value of the franchise so they could sell it. This deal doesnt really do that. Seems like we are far from the finish line wit this whole thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 18 minutes ago, HuskieBear said: is this not what Warren did in MN tho? They had a site in the burbs, then did a publicly owned stadium in the city but managed to pay off all the debt 23 years early. just dont know if it's privately owned now because that debt is paid off imo the bears need that privately owned stadium They want it for sure. It costs a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBears019 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Until there’s an actual deal struck I’m not going to believe that any “report” or “statement” is anything more than just trying to gain leverage/posturing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 3/12/2024 at 8:32 AM, dll2000 said: That wasn’t my intent. I went to family fest last year. The issue for me personally is convenience not fear. Just saying it is a real thing. You've got really well developed thoughts and opinions as well as lots of experience, which is why I-and I'm sure I'm not alone-pay special attention to your football thoughts and even if I disagree I'll give it a lot of thought. You're one of my favorite people to read on the net for Bears stuff. So I hope you'll take it as a sign of respect that it bugs me when that stuff comes from you, and frankly I hate that my city for a whooooole lot of people is just a politically useful meme. Don't think we're going to find common ground on it so I'm just going to say my piece, and go back to agreeing with you on nearly everything else we talk about on here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) I really want Arlington Stadium to be built. At same time I am against a lot of free money for Billionaires. I am okay with some tax breaks. That is just reality. Edited March 14 by dll2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AZBearsFan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: Seems like this is the result of the “interest” in building in the city that was released last week to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I think Arlington is betting favorite still. I think it will ultimately come down to where they can get best public deal. A lot of that is political so I don’t really know how that will shake out. I know if it was me, I see better long term economic return (for Bears) in Arlington than in Chicago. I think the public probably loses money either way, but that is way of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBears019 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 That’s so weird the timing of all this. 🤔 Im so ready for this all to be over with. Just strike a deal already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 21 minutes ago, CBears019 said: That’s so weird the timing of all this. 🤔 Im so ready for this all to be over with. Just strike a deal already. A deal deal for everything involves 100s of millions of public dollars. It won’t happen quick. You can get part way and start digging though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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