Sugashane Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, incognito_man said: His weapons are fine. The OL sucks and Rodgers is missing throws. OL is absolutely part of "the talent around him." It's half the personnel on the field with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 9:14 PM, StatKing said: The Bears fans in this thread have been waiting 15 years for this moment. The man is unquestionably a top 10 QB of all time. Sorry if giving that guy the benefit of the doubt seems more reasonable than thinking a bunch of rookies and fringe roster guys aren't more likely to be the problem. To be honest, everyone in the NFCN has. The only real threat in the division has been Minnesota but besides 09, 15 and 17 its pretty much been all GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Sugashane said: OL is absolutely part of "the talent around him." It's half the personnel on the field with him. 99.99% of people do not refer to the OL when talking about "the talent" around a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 8 hours ago, incognito_man said: 99.99% of people do not refer to the OL when talking about "the talent" around a QB. Yes they do, especially fans who have seen a lot of bad QB play from their favorite team over the years. That's just a dumb notion. The people who block literally every play aren't relevant? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Sugashane said: Yes they do, especially fans who have seen a lot of bad QB play from their favorite team over the years. That's just a dumb notion. The people who block literally every play aren't relevant? They are important. I'm in the .01% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, incognito_man said: They are important. I'm in the .01% I'm not bashing you either FWIW, just read my response and it sounds kinda prick-ish. Maybe I've been staying off the Facebook and Yahoo chats for long enough to be disconnected from the bulk of fans. I know Bears fans on here and a few other forums have been complaining about the OL being neglected for the bulk of the last 15 years though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Sugashane said: I'm not bashing you either FWIW, just read my response and it sounds kinda prick-ish. Maybe I've been staying off the Facebook and Yahoo chats for long enough to be disconnected from the bulk of fans. I know Bears fans on here and a few other forums have been complaining about the OL being neglected for the bulk of the last 15 years though. I've repeatedly defended the lack of support for the GB OL the past 5ish years. They never got enough credit and casual fans routinely complained that Rodgers had a weak supporting cast (despite having an elite OL for years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 35 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I've repeatedly defended the lack of support for the GB OL the past 5ish years. They never got enough credit and casual fans routinely complained that Rodgers had a weak supporting cast (despite having an elite OL for years). Really? I didn't know the disrespect for their OL was that bad in recent years. I thought they looked good for most part, though every OL will have the occasional game where they get whipped. Granted any OL that loses Bak takes a major step down but you expect to take a hit when an All Pro goes down. Even last year with a slew of injuries they pulled together to be one of the better OLs in the league I thought. Actually, with Nagy and Pace finally getting the boot I did a mock where I stole Stenavich as OC (because the HC was the playcaller) too because I was damn impressed. Wanted someone really to develop the young OL like Jenkins, Borom and the other guys I was drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 11:14 AM, incognito_man said: 99.99% of people do not refer to the OL when talking about "the talent" around a QB. Well, clearly, they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I hope the Packers stop fooling themselves after today. Not only cut Rodgers, but fire LaFleur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I remember a few years ago after Jennings left and Nelson got hurt, Davante Adams was the second round pick who was expected to step up but wasn't quite ready. I think it may take another year for Rodgers and one of his young receivers to gel, but it always ends up working out eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 lol Packers fans are the worst. I keep saying it, but they deserve to be in QB purgatory for the next 20 years after being spoiled by Favre and Rodgers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, pf9 said: I hope the Packers stop fooling themselves after today. Not only cut Rodgers, but fire LaFleur. Rest of the NFC North: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 55 minutes ago, pf9 said: I hope the Packers stop fooling themselves after today. Not only cut Rodgers, but fire LaFleur. both are on extensions in their contracts. just dump that expense? and there's no snese getting a new GB coach unless he can choose his qb too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 35 minutes ago, redsoxsuck05 said: I remember a few years ago after Jennings left and Nelson got hurt, Davante Adams was the second round pick who was expected to step up but wasn't quite ready. I think it may take another year for Rodgers and one of his young receivers to gel, but it always ends up working out eventually. yes, but present day Rodgers is no longer prime Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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