SotanKing Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Considering Lions 4th Round pick is going to be around 100-110 and Vikings 2nd round pick is going to be around 55-60, feel like the dropoff from Vikes 2nd rounder to Lions 4th rounder in 2023 draft isn't going to be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, viking said: Lions will get a solid player with the 2nd round pick then clear house, firing Campbell and all the other coaches. The new coaching staff they bring in will have a totally different scheme rendering the solid player you draft useless. They aren't firing Campbell. They signed him to a 6 year deal to do a total tear down rebuild. Last year was the tear down. This year is the acquiring talent/building an identity year. No one expected them to compete for anything. Those are expectations fans had after Hard Knocks. Unjustly so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: Why do bad teams draft good players and not retain them? One of the staples of staying a bad team is paying good players like great players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, mattyice0401 said: How do the Vikings lose here? Giving up a second round pick for an injury prone TE in an offense their own HC described as having weeks where the position won't be used in the passing game. A passing game where he's the fourth option when they are using the position nonetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Thor Nystrom@thorku Rich Hill Trade Chart points*: (*2024 estimates) MN gets: Hockenson 2023 R4 (38 points) 2024 R4 (32) DET gets: 2023 R2 (91) 2024 R3 (50) Vikes relinquish 71 points. Upshot: Vikes acquired Hockenson for equivalent of No. 69 overall pick. Steal for exactly what they needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: Giving up a second round pick for an injury prone TE in an offense their own HC described as having weeks where the position won't be used in the passing game. A passing game where he's the fourth option when they are using the position nonetheless A late 2nd and were more than likely getting a top 100 pick back. KOC has schemed up Mundt touches in the RZ one can only think how well he does with an actual threat at TE makes me excited. His he injured now? No. So that point is kinda pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Yah, just don't draft a TE high. It's bad business that Detroit is trying to clean up. Vikes made a good short term move here. I think the idea is to sign him to an extension. Irv Smith Jr is a goner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Will Ragatz@WillRagatz In 3.5 seasons, T.J. Hockenson has seven career games with at least 80 receiving yards. The Vikings have had a tight end reach 80 receiving yards seven times since the start of the 2010 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, vike daddy said: Upshot: Vikes acquired Hockenson for equivalent of No. 69 overall pick. Steal for exactly what they needed. Nice Edited November 1, 2022 by NudeTayne 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: Giving up a second round pick for an injury prone TE in an offense their own HC described as having weeks where the position won't be used in the passing game. A passing game where he's the fourth option when they are using the position nonetheless You're acting like they didn't get picks back as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 This is sad and hilarious 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, seminoles1 said: You're acting like they didn't get picks back as well. a fourth. I imagine the two next season will be close to a wash A second round pick for a non elite TE seems ludicrous to me, but to each their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 This seems like a bad return for Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: You're acting like they didn't get picks back as well. This. The fact that we’re getting picks back is icing on the cake for me. Slick Rick Spielman traded a 4th round pick last year for Chris Herndon who’s in street clothes right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotanKing Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: Giving up a second round pick for an injury prone TE in an offense their own HC described as having weeks where the position won't be used in the passing game. A passing game where he's the fourth option when they are using the position nonetheless since when is Hockenson an injury prone TE ? He has missed around 8 games in 3 1/2 seasons so far, roughly an average of 2 games missed per season. Edited November 1, 2022 by SotanKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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