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Week 8 GDT: Raiders vs @Jags


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8 hours ago, big_palooka said:

I compared the first 7 games in 2021 to the first 7 in 2022. 

The red zone stat being a reminder to do what you're doing adding it to the list to compare when it matters. 

Yeah but if you do that then you would have to would have to accept that Gruden did more with less talent on offense. 

2021(through the first 7 games)

25.7 PPG

393.2 YPG

19 Sacks Allowed 

2022

23.3 PPG

340.9 YPG

17 Sacks Allowed 

We have better talent getting worse results 

 

As far as defense... 

2021(through the first 7 games)

23.7 PPG

YPG 336.3 

18 Sacks 

8 Turnovers 

2022

366.7 YPG

24.9 PPG

9 Sacks 

4 Turnovers

Same "no talent" defense; different results

 

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3 hours ago, big_palooka said:

They only had 18 sacks. 5 of which came against Denver. 4 INTs, 3 of which came against Denver. 5 fumbles, 2 from Denver.

 

Whoops about the math(ill update that). OK so we had one game last year where we had..

-The more turnovers than we've up until this point this season

-Over half the amount of sacks that we have up until this point this season

We were better overall on both sides of the ball at this point in the season last season. Its not a surprise that we were better in the win loss column as well 

 

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22 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said:

Whoops about the math(ill update that). OK so we had one game last year where we had..

-The more turnovers than we've up until this point this season

-Over half the amount of sacks that we have up until this point this season

We were better overall on both sides of the ball at this point in the season last season. Its not a surprise that we were better in the win loss column as well 

The defense is not better overall than last season. You keep saying that and there is validity to the statement. And the schedule was much harder the to start off this season. 3 division games alone is a toll order in the first 5 weeks.  

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3 hours ago, big_palooka said:

The defense is not better overall than last season. You keep saying that and there is validity to the statement. And the schedule was much harder the to start off this season. 3 division games alone is a toll order in the first 5 weeks.  

The only difference between this years the first 7 games and last years is that we played the Chiefs. Considering we've played the worst team in the AFC(The Texans) Who could be very well picking number one overall, that cancels it out. And that's putting it mildly. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Jeremy408 said:

Yeah but if you do that then you would have to would have to accept that Gruden did more with less talent on offense. 

2021(through the first 7 games)

25.7 PPG

393.2 YPG

19 Sacks Allowed 

2022

23.3 PPG

340.9 YPG

17 Sacks Allowed 

We have better talent getting worse results 

McDaniels was supposedly an offensive guru and has been so damn meh. 

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9 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said:

Honestly can’t do what I want cause all these contracts 

I’d trade carr, waller, hunter, chandler, Adams and go full rebuild 

draft a qb and wr and go oline and def heavy in draft/fa

It'll be tough to trade any of those dudes outside of Adams. All of them have big contracts and have ished the bed. IIRC we also have to cut Carr basically immediately after the season ends to get any cap savings. 

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5 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said:

Wish I knew how to post dmac vs den laughing game picture. Imo that’s the best I’ve ever seen our offense.
 

Guess who was calling the plays that day/ season?

Was that the Jason Campbell year? Our offense was humming with him until he got injured then Al died. Hue as an OC was good

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