BobbyPhil1781 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 hours ago, jrry32 said: Yes. Josh Allen (56% college career). Brett Favre (52% college career). Lamar Jackson (57% college career). Mike Vick (56% college career). Steve McNair (56% college career). (Richardson is at 55% for his college career.) They don't necessarily need dramatic improvement. Just mechanical progressions that allow for more consistency. To keep it in perspective, you only named 5 people over a 40 year tenure. Shouldn't inspire confidence but anything can happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Trey Lance is a disaster of a pick? How can you possibly know that? Two starts as a project rookie QB and one start on a puddle field where even Mahomes would have looked garbage. I mean, based on the current results he's not wrong. I'm not saying he isn't jumping the gun on declaring him a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I mean, based on the current results he's not wrong. I'm not saying he isn't jumping the gun on declaring him a disaster. It's completely inconclusive one way or the other. He was a big project pick, any rookie starts dont matter. And the only other game he played was soldier field which was full of puddles, even Mahomes would have went for a bad statline like 1 TD 0 INT in that game. It was borderline unplayable. People making assumptions purely because "time is passing" which is dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, BayRaider said: It's completely inconclusive one way or the other. He was a big project pick, any rookie starts dont matter. And the only other game he played was soldier field which was full of puddles, even Mahomes would have went for a bad statline like 1 TD 0 INT in that game. It was borderline unplayable. People making assumptions purely because "time is passing" which is dumb. You trade 2 future FRPs to move up to select him, sit him pretty much his entire rookie year, and then breaks his ankle 2 games into the season. That's a terrible ROI. And that's not taking into account that he looked awful against Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: You trade 2 future FRPs to move up to select him, sit him pretty much his entire rookie year, and then breaks his ankle 2 games into the season. That's a terrible ROI. And that's not taking into account that he looked awful against Chicago. Good ROI or not, no one knows what so ever if he's a bust yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Good ROI or not, no one knows what so ever if he's a bust yet. Again, that is why I think he can be both wrong and right at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: To keep it in perspective, you only named 5 people over a 40 year tenure. Shouldn't inspire confidence but anything can happen I could name more, but I was trying to be reticent of your limitation (that only QBs who would have been worthy of #1 picks counted) and of not going too far back because of how offenses have evolved. Although, I cheated a little bit with Favre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I liked how Richardson looked today but will people please stop saying the Lions should take him at 6 or trade up for him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, rob_shadows said: I liked how Richardson looked today but will people please stop saying the Lions should take him at 6 or trade up for him... We will say what we want to say. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Lions should trade up to #1 to get Richardson! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Just now, Scoundrel said: We will say what we want to say. Say it just don't will it into reality 😜 Lions are in a position to compete in the division as soon as next year if they can field a competent defense, that needs to be the focus early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, rob_shadows said: Say it just don't will it into reality 😜 Lions are in a position to compete in the division as soon as next year if they can field a competent defense, that needs to be the focus early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Schooling the athletic of the athletic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 The Lions have so many other picks to help with that defense. And if they’re any good moving forward you’re not gonna be in a position to get a qb as talented as AR15 Richardson plus Jameson Williams I’m telling y’all would go crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 34 minutes ago, brownie man said: The Lions have so many other picks to help with that defense. And if they’re any good moving forward you’re not gonna be in a position to get a qb as talented as AR15 Richardson plus Jameson Williams I’m telling y’all would go crazy They had a top 5 offense last season with Goff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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