Total Control Mock Draft 2023 - Discussion

[MikeT14]

1 minute ago, Daniel said:

I'm clicking the link to the Titans from the League Office Thread.  I'm not really seeing anything else I can click.

Nope. You should have a private message from @ny92mike giving you your private workbook. If you didn't get one, then he can send it to you. 

[Daniel]

3 minutes ago, MikeT14 said:

Nope. You should have a private message from @ny92mike giving you your private workbook. If you didn't get one, then he can send it to you. 

....I knew it was a dumb question.

[jch1911]

12 minutes ago, Freebirdsrams said:

Can someone explain the "subsequent year %rate". I keep trying to work these numbers to see what to offer and that is the only thing that says fail when trying things out.

There are #'s that the subsequent years must be between (a minimum and maximum) based on the previous year's contract

Edit: can you post a screenshot?  

Edited February 10, 2023 by jch1911

[Freebirdsrams]

Just now, jch1911 said:

There are #'s that the subsequent years must be between (a minimum and maximum) based on the previous year's contract

Ok so I just need to make sure I am between those numbers. Thank you

[MikeT14]

30 minutes ago, Daniel said:

....I knew it was a dumb question.

It's not. A couple people have asked. 

[DTMW78]

If I extend a player with one year left what happens with the salary he is due in 23??

 

[ny92mike]

I'll be on later to answer any questions.

[RTTRUTH]

2 hours ago, sparky151 said:

It's not really a loophole, just a mechanism for a team to push cap hits down the road and load up for a season. Tampa did that for 2021 and again in 2022. At the end of the season, most people thought Brady would play in 2023, just somewhere else like San Fran or Las Vegas. If he'd gone elsewhere Tampa would get the 35 mil hit in 2023 so it's something they just have to deal with.

 

 

I know. Just saying I don’t like it. I just view them as fake seasons. I’m comfortable with like what Dallas did with Tyron Smith a couple times. But he’s actually still under contract.

What I don’t like, is, for example a team signing a guy to an expensive deal for 23, then creating a fake year on purpose, just so they don’t have to pay him in 23. It’s disingenuous. And imo makes a mockery of a salary cap system. Hence me using the term loophole. 

[ny92mike]

5 hours ago, squire12 said:

couple things that I think might be good for discussion

1. increasing the future year cap compliance.  most teams that are cap tight in the NFL will push money into the future year(s) and be over the "projected" cap and repeat the process of pushing cap into future seasons
2. increase the number of players and/OR the amount of restructure allotment teams have to work with.  NFL has no restrictions on restructures.  limiting them in TCMD will cause teams to be hard pressed to get to cap compliance.  I am not sure it needs to be full scale, but some % of what a full amount of what could be restructured might be good.  Values from OTC could be used as a calculation

Crap I knew I forgot something.  I need to fix the restructure allotment values.

[ny92mike]

7 hours ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said:

man... I can tell you right now, I am no Capologist 😆

I've only messed around with cutting some players a little bit, but at this rate I'm going to have a hard time just getting to where I can sign my draft picks, let alone sign any FAs

I thought the Brady thing would have given me a little bit more room to breathe , but I think it only ended up saving me like 6M

I cleared the voided cap hits but I'll take another look tonight to see where we can free up more if needed.

[ny92mike]

2 hours ago, sparky151 said:

Hey, I was looking at the O-line APYs in free agency and they are way out of whack. Orlando Brown is the only free agent asking for more than 10 million per year. He's at the 16 mil from last year's tag but has said publicly he wants 25 mil per year. Other well known players like Conner McGovern and Mike McGlinchey are only asking for vet minimum, being willing to take big paycuts. Can we get the O-line asks in line with the D-line APYs? 

Crap APY values again... Yeah it looks jacked up.  I'll see if I can't work something out within the FA workbook to adjust this.

[sparky151]

3 hours ago, MikeT14 said:

We've seen in the past though, the best players go for over whatever their APY is listed as. 

Sure but the low starting points for the O-linemen mean they'll get snapped up in round 1 while the more realistically priced players drop over time. KC will have an easy time extending Brown with his APY so low. It distorts the market to have one position mispriced.

 

Fortunately, Mike's on top of it. 

[JetsandI]

1 hour ago, RTTRUTH said:

I know. Just saying I don’t like it. I just view them as fake seasons. I’m comfortable with like what Dallas did with Tyron Smith a couple times. But he’s actually still under contract.

What I don’t like, is, for example a team signing a guy to an expensive deal for 23, then creating a fake year on purpose, just so they don’t have to pay him in 23. It’s disingenuous. And imo makes a mockery of a salary cap system. Hence me using the term loophole. 

You can amortize new $$ over years in any way you see fit as long as 5 year is maximum, existing or voidable year(s).  It becomes dangerous if there is no extension in place by new league year begins which is March 15.

Unfortunately, in this TCMD, they don't allow voidable years for new contract. Mike SUCKS!  lol.

 

[ny92mike]

34 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

Sure but the low starting points for the O-linemen mean they'll get snapped up in round 1 while the more realistically priced players drop over time. KC will have an easy time extending Brown with his APY so low. It distorts the market to have one position mispriced.

 

Fortunately, Mike's on top of it. 

Wish we had caught it earlier but it's how PFF is listing their graded players, if you use the snap count min. then you get a short list.  If you don't use it then you get a list of players that had one snap graded at 90.  Would be nice if they at least set it up so you can determine what that snap count is.  So if I wanted to see the grades of everyone with a min. snap count of 100 or 80 I think it would help.

I'll have this figured out for the future mocks but on the fly, I think my only option is to use the "no snap count min" and just deal with the outliers.

I won't spend the time with reloading the team workbooks, just too much work involved with that, my workaround will be listing the new player database in the FA workbook with formulas to adjust the APY and SB values in the UFA sheet.

Working on it now, should be done in the next hour or so.

 

 

[ny92mike]

I really need the vets in this mock to step up and help out the new guys.  They have questions that I just don't have the time right now to answer.

Thanks in advance.