JetsandI Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, ny92mike said: Wish we had caught it earlier but it's how PFF is listing their graded players, if you use the snap count min. then you get a short list. If you don't use it then you get a list of players that had one snap graded at 90. Would be nice if they at least set it up so you can determine what that snap count is. So if I wanted to see the grades of everyone with a min. snap count of 100 or 80 I think it would help. I'll have this figured out for the future mocks but on the fly, I think my only option is to use the "no snap count min" and just deal with the outliers. I won't spend the time with reloading the team workbooks, just too much work involved with that, my workaround will be listing the new player database in the FA workbook with formulas to adjust the APY and SB values in the UFA sheet. Working on it now, should be done in the next hour or so. no snap works. Nobody will bid on expensive low snap dude right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, JetsandI said: no snap works. Nobody will bid on expensive low snap dude right away. That's what I did originally and it was frowned upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, JetsandI said: You can amortize new $$ over years in any way you see fit as long as 5 year is maximum, existing or voidable year(s). It becomes dangerous if there is no extension in place by new league year begins which is March 15. Unfortunately, in this TCMD, they don't allow voidable years for new contract. Mike SUCKS! lol. I agree with him though. The thing it reminds me of a little is how mad people were about the Tampa Bay Lightning in hockey being able to carry all the guys they did because one expensive player was on IR and therefore didn’t count against their cap. But come playoff time, the cap is no longer accounted for, the star player comes back, and you have an illegitimately lopsided level of competition. Sure enough, they went on to win. And that’s what these void contract workarounds remind me of. It’s like this Year the cap being $220 million, and you end up having to play me in the playoffs with a roster worth $218 million. Meanwhile because of my “cheating” I’m competing against you with a roster worth $240 million. We go on to win, and your fans just have to eat ****. Fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, sparky151 said: Sure but the low starting points for the O-linemen mean they'll get snapped up in round 1 while the more realistically priced players drop over time. KC will have an easy time extending Brown with his APY so low. It distorts the market to have one position mispriced. Fortunately, Mike's on top of it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15eLbOcSk4Z_rnKfOInr5jsXBYQ1KnjlrVtxld1or5WQ/edit#gid=0 Okay, I think it looks much better. Good find btw. I'm missing so many things it's embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 League Office thread is OPEN for CUTS ONLY. Team Team Abbr. General Manager Hyperlinks Asst. GM Arizona Cardinals ARI @LuckyNumber11 @LuckyNumber11 Atlanta Falcons ATL @ovfd55 @ovfd55 Baltimore Ravens BAL @Justone2 @Justone2 Buffalo Bills BUF @Trentwannabe @Trentwannabe Carolina Panthers CAR @MikeT14 @MikeT14 Chicago Bears CHI @squire12 @squire12 Cincinnati Bengals CIN @sparky151 @sparky151 Cleveland Browns CLE @cortes02 @cortes02 Dallas Cowboys DAL @JetsandI @JetsandI Denver Broncos DEN @Scoundrel @Scoundrel Detroit Lions DET @winitall @winitall Green Bay Packers GB @MaximusGluteus @MaximusGluteus Houston Texans HOU @jch1911 @jch1911 Indianapolis Colts IND @RTTRUTH @RTTRUTH Jacksonville Jaguars JAC @Trojan @Trojan Kansas City Chiefs KC @RedGold @RedGold Las Vegas Raiders LVR @NYRaider @NYRaider Los Angeles Chargers LAC @whodatOL @whodatOL Los Angeles Rams LAR @Freebirdsrams @Freebirdsrams Miami Dolphins MIA @mountainpd @mountainpd Minnesota Vikings MIN @KingOfNewYork @KingOfNewYork New England Patriots NE @Deadpulse @Deadpulse New Orleans Saints NO @whodatOL @whodatOL New York Giants NYG @ny92mike @ny92mike New York Jets NYJ @bcb1213 @bcb1213 Philadelphia Eagles PHI @EaglesPeteC @EaglesPeteC Pittsburgh Steelers PIT @Cbrunn @Cbrunn San Francisco 49ers SF @Forge @Forge Seattle Seahawks SEA @DTMW78 @DTMW78 Tampa Bay Buccaneers TB @BucsDraftGeek47 @BucsDraftGeek47 Tennessee Titans TEN @Daniel @Daniel Washington Commanders WAS @MKnight82 @MKnight82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, RTTRUTH said: I agree with him though. The thing it reminds me of a little is how mad people were about the Tampa Bay Lightning in hockey being able to carry all the guys they did because one expensive player was on IR and therefore didn’t count against their cap. But come playoff time, the cap is no longer accounted for, the star player comes back, and you have an illegitimately lopsided level of competition. Sure enough, they went on to win. And that’s what these void contract workarounds remind me of. It’s like this Year the cap being $220 million, and you end up having to play me in the playoffs with a roster worth $218 million. Meanwhile because of my “cheating” I’m competing against you with a roster worth $240 million. We go on to win, and your fans just have to eat ****. Fair? Is there a difference in using void years vs having years that the player likely wouldn't see ? Teams are still spreading the signing bonus out over the length of the contract. Void years are beneficial to the player as they get the money and are FA once those void years hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, squire12 said: Is there a difference in using void years vs having years that the player likely wouldn't see ? Teams are still spreading the signing bonus out over the length of the contract. Void years are beneficial to the player as they get the money and are FA once those void years hit For me there is. Simply about intent. Every 5 year deal is so pricey now that with the exception of a couple QBs no one makes it to the last year. Even then they extend. But in those cases, you are trying to keep the player on your roster. I feel like teams add void years only to cheat the cap. And that’s my frustration with it. They are literally listed as void years. They have no intentions of the player being there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said: For me there is. Simply about intent. Every 5 year deal is so pricey now that with the exception of a couple QBs no one makes it to the last year. Even then they extend. But in those cases, you are trying to keep the player on your roster. I feel like teams add void years only to cheat the cap. And that’s my frustration with it. They are literally listed as void years. They have no intentions of the player being there. So you would prefer the team fluffing the base salaries instead of using void years? Then the team cuts the player to avoid keeping the player. Net result is effectively the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 3 hours ago, squire12 said: So you would prefer the team fluffing the base salaries instead of using void years? Then the team cuts the player to avoid keeping the player. Net result is effectively the same I suppose in a way that’s correct. Maybe it’s just the way the Saints have used it that frustrates me. AND when a team signs a real 4-5 year deal it just feels to me like the financial repercussions come home, capwise. I don’t get how the Saints can use multiple void years with multiple players, end up almost record-breakingly $60,000,000 over the cap, and somehow still find a way to entertain the thought of taking on a $30,000,000 new Quarterback at the same time. I guess my argument is fix whatever mechanism makes that possible. Stupid to me. Like where’s the end of the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 @sparky151 @squire12 @JetsandI @MKnight82 @RTTRUTH Probably missed someone, but you guys have been the most active to date. Thoughts on the restructure values. I base it off the teams OTC cap values. I'm thinking 10M to the team with the most cap space upto the team with the least amount of cap space. These new values is a average $8 M increase. If you think we need less or more let me know. Team Team Abbr. Restructure Allotment New Values Arizona Cardinals ARI $2,450,000 $10,000,000 Atlanta Falcons ATL $2,915,000 $10,480,000 Baltimore Ravens BAL $3,365,000 $10,975,000 Buffalo Bills BUF $3,815,000 $11,455,000 Carolina Panthers CAR $4,280,000 $11,935,000 Chicago Bears CHI $4,730,000 $12,415,000 Cincinnati Bengals CIN $5,180,000 $12,910,000 Cleveland Browns CLE $5,630,000 $13,390,000 Dallas Cowboys DAL $6,095,000 $13,870,000 Denver Broncos DEN $6,545,000 $14,350,000 Detroit Lions DET $6,995,000 $14,845,000 Green Bay Packers GB $7,460,000 $15,325,000 Houston Texans HOU $7,910,000 $15,805,000 Indianapolis Colts IND $8,360,000 $16,285,000 Jacksonville Jaguars JAC $8,825,000 $16,780,000 Kansas City Chiefs KC $9,275,000 $17,260,000 Las Vegas Raiders LVR $10,640,000 $18,715,000 Los Angeles Chargers LAC $9,725,000 $17,740,000 Los Angeles Rams LAR $10,175,000 $18,220,000 Miami Dolphins MIA $11,090,000 $19,195,000 Minnesota Vikings MIN $11,540,000 $19,675,000 New England Patriots NE $12,005,000 $20,155,000 New Orleans Saints NO $12,455,000 $20,650,000 New York Giants NYG $12,905,000 $21,130,000 New York Jets NYJ $13,370,000 $21,610,000 Philadelphia Eagles PHI $13,820,000 $22,090,000 Pittsburgh Steelers PIT $14,270,000 $22,585,000 San Francisco 49ers SF $15,185,000 $23,545,000 Seattle Seahawks SEA $14,720,000 $23,065,000 Tampa Bay Buccaneers TB $15,635,000 $24,025,000 Tennessee Titans TEN $16,085,000 $24,520,000 Washington Football Team WAS $16,550,000 $25,000,000 Avg. $9,500,000 $17,500,000 Difference: $8,000,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpd Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 If I trade for a player can I presume an extension will be at the APY and SB numbers listed in trade block thread or could they increase after I trade for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, mountainpd said: If I trade for a player can I presume an extension will be at the APY and SB numbers listed in trade block thread or could they increase after I trade for them? APY & Bonus for extensions use other values (tag amounts). Beware of trading and extensions as it won't be cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 @ny92mikeI am looking at the restructure sheet and trying to restructure Marlon Humphrey who has 4 years left on his contract. For some reason when i load him in the restructure sheet it only shows 2 years which means the amount i can save is way lower than it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Justone2 said: @ny92mikeI am looking at the restructure sheet and trying to restructure Marlon Humphrey who has 4 years left on his contract. For some reason when i load him in the restructure sheet it only shows 2 years which means the amount i can save is way lower than it should. Sounds like another wonderful error. I'll take a look after I have my coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, ny92mike said: Sounds like another wonderful error. I'll take a look after I have my coffee. Yessir, it's another formula oversight. My testers suck...haha. Kidding obviously, it's impossible to catch everything in the first run. I'll see if I can't get it fixed within the next hour or two. Thanks for finding and reporting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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