.Buzz Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I’m happy for Herbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) IMO it's only half the needed solution, but it's a much-needed start. Edited January 17, 2023 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 Assume this means Staley is sticking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 lol Wikipedia page: Quote Joseph Philip Lombardi (born June 6, 1971) is an American football coach and former player who was the offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers of the National Football League (NFL). He also is the main reason the Los Angeles Chargers blew their lead against the Jacksonville Jaguars. He previously served as the quarterbacks coach for the New Orleans Saints from 2016 to 2020 and was the offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions from 2014 to 2015.[1] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Let's be clear, Brandon Staley staying is a problem - because he's lost his aggression. From punting inside the KC on 4th and 5 or less at least 3x, if not 4x in both games, to going for a punt on 4th and 4 from the 35 instead of a FG or going for it vs. JAX - Staley's totally shied away from being the uber aggressive, win-with-Herbert guy. But Joe Lombardi's scheme was a massive albatross on Herbert. Ppl quickly forget Shane Steichen's vertical attack scheme is what Herbert used in his rookie year - Lombardi's dink-and-dunk scheme with Drew Brees in NO was a terrible fit. And before ppl say it was because of the OL and personnel - Joe Lombardi used the same scheme with Detroit in 2014, with a peak Matthew Stafford & Calvin Johnson & Golden Tate....to produce the 19th ranked pass O. His firing led to the resurgence of the DET O by Jim Bob Cooter by simply NOT being Joe Lombardi. Chargers still have major Q's with Staley at the helm, but man this was so needed. As a final contrast..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Frank Reich would be such a good hire here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, minutemancl said: Frank Reich would be such a good hire here. Would be really amusing him returning as OC for a second stint with us after being fired by McCoy or Lynn… all the mediocre coaches blend in after a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Leoric said: Would be really amusing him returning as OC for a second stint with us after being fired by McCoy or Lynn… all the mediocre coaches blend in after a while. Lol I totally forgot he was there just a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Let's be clear, Brandon Staley staying is a problem - because he's lost his aggression (and for a D guy, his D has underperformed, esp the run D). From punting inside the KC on 4th and 5 or less at least 3x, if not 4x in both games, to going for a punt on 4th and 4 from the 35 instead of a FG or going for it vs. JAX - Staley's totally shied away from being the uber aggressive, win-with-Herbert guy. But Joe Lombardi's scheme was a massive albatross on Herbert. Ppl quickly forget Shane Steichen's vertical attack scheme is what Herbert used in his rookie year - Lombardi's dink-and-dunk scheme with Drew Brees in NO was a terrible fit. And before ppl say it was because of the OL and personnel - Joe Lombardi used the same scheme with Detroit in 2014, with a peak Matthew Stafford & Calvin Johnson & Golden Tate....to produce the 19th ranked pass O. His firing led to the resurgence of the DET O by Jim Bob Cooter by simply NOT being Joe Lombardi. Chargers still have major Q's with Staley at the helm, but man this was so needed. As a final contrast..... And it's been like that all season. Good riddance (but IMO it was only a half-measure, thanks to the Spanos family being that cheap). Look at that left graph. Edited January 17, 2023 by Broncofan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Frank Reich would be such a good hire here. I think they were a bottom 3 running team in both of his previous two seasons with the Chargers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Frank Reich would be such a good hire here. I feel like he would be a better HC than an OC. But that’s just me. They need someone who can run the full Shanahan/McVay offense better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Broncofan said: Let's be clear, Brandon Staley staying is a problem - because he's lost his aggression. From punting inside the KC on 4th and 5 or less at least 3x, if not 4x in both games, to going for a punt on 4th and 4 from the 35 instead of a FG or going for it vs. JAX - Staley's totally shied away from being the uber aggressive, win-with-Herbert guy. But Joe Lombardi's scheme was a massive albatross on Herbert. Ppl quickly forget Shane Steichen's vertical attack scheme is what Herbert used in his rookie year - Lombardi's dink-and-dunk scheme with Drew Brees in NO was a terrible fit. And before ppl say it was because of the OL and personnel - Joe Lombardi used the same scheme with Detroit in 2014, with a peak Matthew Stafford & Calvin Johnson & Golden Tate....to produce the 19th ranked pass O. His firing led to the resurgence of the DET O by Jim Bob Cooter by simply NOT being Joe Lombardi. Chargers still have major Q's with Staley at the helm, but man this was so needed. As a final contrast..... And it's been like that all season. Good riddance (but IMO it was only a half-measure, thanks to the Spanos family being that cheap). Hope Staley regains his fire. And hire an actual DC like Fangio to run the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, .Buzz said: Assume this means Staley is sticking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I'm sure they'll be able to land whatever OC that they want, could be a direct path into a HC spot next offseason if they play well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 #FreeHerbert They cannot do worse than Lombardi and whoever their pass game coordinator was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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