seminoles1 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: Length and asset commitment to get it done. I get initially he only signed a 3 year deal, but since being with the Vikings, hasn't every extension for him been fully guaranteed? So we're on 6 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: It’s virtually guaranteed he’s going to come off his alleged demands, one way or another. Whether it’s the years, total dollars, or GTD portion. I think he’s going to play this year on that tag and then, hopefully for him, he has a big season and can cash in a bit more next year. This is the issue. Nobody is giving him what he wants. If he gets talked down from that, you just negotiated for the Ravens. You basically know the only way to get him is to do something nobody wants to do and give up picks to do it. Why would you waste your GM’s time having him make a deal that will be whited out so the Ravens can put their name on it? You’re essentially either going with his first demand or you are doing someone else’s job. Edited March 9, 2023 by lancerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Update: He's been a joke about everywhere for quite some time now. We notoriously loathe him in Cleveland too. The dude is a complete meme. Sad part is his show is now the 2-6 slot on the Baltimore sports talk station, and he replaced a show that everyone unanimously loved. He and his show are unanimously hated. He has an axe to grind against Biscotti/EDC because they banned him from media availability at the facility after it was found out he was just straight up fabricating "insider" information about them. So inevitably every show just ends up him ranting about how terrible an organization we are, how Lamar is this innocent victim held hostage by a cheap owner and clueless GM, yadda yadda yadda. And in the next segment he'll go on to praise how well run of an organization the BALTIMORE ORIOLES are. This is - of course - because the Orioles still allow him around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Update: He's been a joke about everywhere for quite some time now. We notoriously loathe him in Cleveland too. The dude is a complete meme. Update: He's the NFLs disinformation specialist. GMs tell him lies all the time bc they know he'll tweet about it w/o fact checking any of it. He's basically wrong about everything he writes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBears019 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Mort may as well run the Adarn Schefter Twitter account at this point. It might actually get him more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: I get initially he only signed a 3 year deal, but since being with the Vikings, hasn't every extension for him been fully guaranteed? So we're on 6 years now. I mean people gave MN plenty of **** for signing him to a fully guaranteed deal even though it was shorter. No one brings it up now because his extensions haven't been anywhere near the money Lamar wants, and again, that's not factoring in the assets it'd take to get him. I get your point but Lamar's situation is closer to Watson's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Soko Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 9 hours ago, FalconFan13 said: Im honestly cool with it being collusion and hope they continue it to not end up giving him or any other QB a fully guaranteed contract like Watson got at that price again. To me that is way to crippling to a team if anything goes wrong. Yeah but they don’t need to collude in order to avoid that. All Miami, Washington, Atlanta, whomever, would have to do is just bring Lamar in for a visit and not offer a fully GTD deal. Then he learns his market value and either sits or signs somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I will say it is very odd that teams aren't even willing to talk about the deal with Lamar. Like sure, even if they know he is asking for wayyyyy too much guaranteed money how do you negotiate if you don't even start the discussion? I am sure the not having an agent thing hurts him a lot here, but none of these teams are even willing to talk to him? Just odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: I will say it is very odd that teams aren't even willing to talk about the deal with Lamar. Like sure, even if they know he is asking for wayyyyy too much guaranteed money how do you negotiate if you don't even start the discussion? I am sure the not having an agent thing hurts him a lot here, but none of these teams are even willing to talk to him? Just odd. Again though, it goes back to why bother negotiating if you know Baltimore will just match anything that isn't fully guaranteed or with absurd guarantees nobody wants to pay? That's just doing the work for them and eating the cap space for five days while they make a decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: I will say it is very odd that teams aren't even willing to talk about the deal with Lamar. Like sure, even if they know he is asking for wayyyyy too much guaranteed money how do you negotiate if you don't even start the discussion? I am sure the not having an agent thing hurts him a lot here, but none of these teams are even willing to talk to him? Just odd. Teams apparently aren't even ALLOWED to talk to him until Wednesday. I actually didn't know that was the timeline, but makes sense with them trading Chuck Clark now, so they can fit Lamar's tag for the start of the league year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: I will say it is very odd that teams aren't even willing to talk about the deal with Lamar. Like sure, even if they know he is asking for wayyyyy too much guaranteed money how do you negotiate if you don't even start the discussion? I am sure the not having an agent thing hurts him a lot here, but none of these teams are even willing to talk to him? Just odd. Why would these clubs willingly waste their time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: Teams apparently aren't even ALLOWED to talk to him until Wednesday. I actually didn't know that was the timeline, but makes sense with them trading Chuck Clark now, so they can fit Lamar's tag for the start of the league year. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Nobellythrower said: Why are you taking away someone best szn, like taking josh best szn which was years ago, rogers, anyways it's always about lamar what about the ravens giving him the least spent offense in his playing career, anyways it's funny what fans say when he's ranked by his peers a top 5 qb, which is elite. Because his best season was 4 years ago and a one-off to date? It's like someone saying Jameis Winston is a 5k QB at this point, because that's how long ago it was? Would you rather me just bring up his last 2 seasons? Or just last year? In which he has been arguably in the bottom half of the league as far as QBs and production go? Besides, last time I checked, players being ranked by their peers wasn't a particularly good bargaining chip when that's all you're bringing to the table....Watch any team based 30 for 30, there's bound to be some lackluster no-name that is talked up by his peers as being the best at something. If Lamar wants a big fat contract full of guarantees, he should have played better. It's really as simple as that. If the Ravens felt about Lamar the way some fans do, he'd get $2.5bn guaranteed. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Because his best season was 4 years ago and a one-off to date? Even if you throw away his best season and look at 2020-2022, Lamar raises the least expensive offense in the NFL to clearly above average level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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