Pro Day Talk

[RaidersAreOne]

 

[RaidersAreOne]

 

[Scoundrel]

3 hours ago, Scoundrel said:

Again 1.65 10 is not good

Again how can someone run this that has a a 6.57 3 come and a 3.93 shuttle

[MWil23]

14 minutes ago, Scoundrel said:

Again how can someone run this that has a a 6.57 3 come and a 3.93 shuttle

Elite lateral ability with change of direction, while perhaps not training very well in a track stance

[THE DUKE]

Like every year, people getting caught up on the wrong stuff

[Ozzy]

By the looks of it Bryce Young missed multiple deep passes to Burton in his pro day.  Not sure that is saying much because Burton was not very good for Bama last year honestly, was supposed to be the #1 WR type but no way he was that.  Curious how he would have looked with a talented WR to throw to, Gibbs the RB was the best WR on the team last year and possibly in the workout.  

 

Bryce Young threw with great pace, good timing and fundamentals.  Quick release, calm and collected obviously.  Pretty solid that CJ Stroud is the #1 pick overall but Bryce Young will not disappoint in the pros.  Only way that happens is if he gets hurt, because I still say from the mental side of the game he is above CJ Stroud and any other QB in the class.  

[sparky151]

Young declined to be weighed today. Raises suspicions he's back below 200 lbs.

[Ozzy]

Ivan Pace Jr apparently ran a 4.5 unoffical 40 at the pro day.  Dude could be a bear and sleeper in the NFL.  Great at staying low, getting off blocks and making impactful plays.  He can run obviously and is versatile, could be a very interesting pro especially against up tempo spread offenses.   In terms of linebackers not sure any standup LB got off blocks better than Pace did last year especially.  

 

 Also had a 35" vertical jump and did 225 pounds 22 times.

 

33 TFLs and 13 sacks in the last two years one at Miami Ohio and the last year as a great player for Cincinnati.  

Edited March 24, 2023 by Ozzy

[nicfre2011]

Liberty Flames

From Tony Pauline:

There were approximately 30 teams on hand for Liberty’s Pro Day — a workout that saw two players stand out.

Shrine Bowl participant Demario Douglas continues his upward move on receiver boards. He timed 7.00 seconds in the three-cone, which was the only test he did not complete during Combine workouts. Just as he did during the Shrine Bowl and Combine, Douglas ran sensational routes, looked incredibly quick-footed, and caught everything thrown in his direction.

The measurements (5’8 1/4″, 30 1/4″ arms, and 8 3/4″ hands) could be an issue for some teams, but in the right system, Douglas will be a tremendous slot receiver/return specialist. The Tennessee Titans, who need a speed receiver (Douglas timed as fast as 4.38 seconds on watches at the Combine), as well as the 49ers, are showing a lot of interest. I have Douglas graded as a fifth-round pick, but it would not surprise me if he sneaked into the fourth.

Durrell Johnson, one of the most underrated linebackers/edge rushers in the upcoming draft, was impressive. He measured 6’5″ and 251 pounds — almost 20 heavier than scouts expected. On a sore hamstring, he timed 4.68 seconds in the 40 with a 1.44 10-yard split. Prior to the hammy issue, Johnson had been timing 4.55 seconds in training. He jumped 38.5″ in the vertical and 10’4″ in the broad.

Johnson, who totaled 27.5 tackles for loss and nine sacks last year, looked solid in position drills as well. The drills were run by the Titans and Dallas Cowboys. The fact Johnson came in over 250 pounds and ran as well as he did was a relief to scouts. Many perceived him to be 235 pounds, a bit light for a 3-4 OLB. Moving forward, teams feel he has the size and athleticism to be used at the line of scrimmage on a consistent basis.

[nicfre2011]

Virginia Cavaliers

From Tony Pauline:

The two Cavalier prospects considered draftable both impressed scouts on hand during Virginia’s Pro Day Wednesday. Cornerback Anthony Johnson looked brilliant in position drills — to the point many of the scouts on-site applauded his effort.

Johnson is a bigger (6’1 1/2″/205 pounds) cornerback with terrific ball skills. On Day 2 of Combine workouts, it was reported Johnson “ran an official 4.63 seconds” in the 40, yet the official sheet dispensed to teams around the league lists his best time at 4.56. The Saints and Kansas City Chiefs interviewed Johnson at length.

Receiver Dontayvion Wicks timed 4.57 seconds in the 40, slightly better than his Combine mark of 4.62 seconds. He also timed 4.20 seconds in the short shuttle and 6.91 seconds in the three-cone. According to scouts, Wicks looked good in drills, was very twitchy running routes, and caught the ball well with no drops.

Edited March 24, 2023 by nicfre2011

[nicfre2011]

March 23rd notes from Tony Pauline:

As I was exiting the Woody Hayes Athletic Center, wide receiver Jaxon Smith-Njigba was meeting with the receiver-needy Houston Texans. Everything I’ve heard this week leads me to believe the Texans will draft a receiver with their second pick in the first round (12th overall). Right now, it seems that
pick has come down to either Jaxon Smith-Njigba or Jordan Addison.

Several teams came away from Ohio State’s Pro Day with even more affection for center Luke Wypler — two in particular: the Buffalo Bills and Arizona Cardinals.

Last week, during my write-up on the Minnesota Pro Day, I mentioned the Bills had Gophers center John Michael Schmitz rated highly. This week it’s Wypler — another Big Ten center. If nothing else, this confirms my posting last week that the Bills will be looking for a center as Mitch Morse closes out his career.

I was told outright at the end of the pro day that the Cardinals will draft Wypler, and it makes sense. Presently, Hjalte Froholdt is listed as Arizona’s starting center — his fourth team since 2019. The Cardinals own a pair of picks in the third round and could use one to select the OSU center.

[THE DUKE]

9 hours ago, Ozzy said:

Ivan Pace Jr apparently ran a 4.5 unoffical 40 at the pro day.  Dude could be a bear and sleeper in the NFL.  Great at staying low, getting off blocks and making impactful plays.  He can run obviously and is versatile, could be a very interesting pro especially against up tempo spread offenses.   In terms of linebackers not sure any standup LB got off blocks better than Pace did last year especially.  

 

 Also had a 35" vertical jump and did 225 pounds 22 times.

 

33 TFLs and 13 sacks in the last two years one at Miami Ohio and the last year as a great player for Cincinnati.  

Pace is a guy I liked for the Bengals before we re-signed Pratt.  Plays with reckless abandon, he's going to make some team happy as a rookie.  If not as a starter then on special teams.

[tyler735]

16 hours ago, Scoundrel said:

Again how can someone run this that has a a 6.57 3 come and a 3.93 shuttle

That was my initial impression. Everyone that has watched JSN knows he is quicker than he is fast. Him running a 1.65 split in the 10 yard doesn't make sense. Especially considering he ran somewhere between a 4.48-4.53 in the 40. The most likely scenario is Ohio State's 10 yard timer was off. Basically if we were to believe the 10 yard time, this would be saying JSN has great top end speed to make up for that bad of a start at the 10 yard mark. I think most of us know that isn't the case with JSN. In looking at Ohio State's Pro Day results, it appears everyone ran slow 10 yard splits. A prime example is Tanner Mccalister with a 1.60 split, but still managed a 4.44 time in the 40 yard dash. For reference both Mccalister and JSN would have had the slowest 10 yard splits of anyone at the combine (among WR/CB) yet their 40 times were better than several prospects at the combine. In other words, it's silly to make a big deal out of JSN's 10 yard split as it likely isn't accurate. 

Edited March 24, 2023 by tyler735

[Scoundrel]

13 minutes ago, tyler735 said:

That was my initial impression. Everyone that has watched JSN knows he is quicker than he is fast. Him running a 1.65 split in the 10 yard doesn't make sense. Especially considering he ran somewhere between a 4.48-4.53 in the 40. The most likely scenario is Ohio State's 10 yard timer was off. Basically if we were to believe the 10 yard time, this would be saying JSN has great top end speed to make up for that bad of a start at the 10 yard mark. I think most of us know that isn't the case with JSN. In looking at Ohio State's Pro Day results, it appears everyone ran slow 10 yard splits. A prime example is Tanner Mccalister with a 1.60 split, but still managed a 4.44 time in the 40 yard dash. For reference both Mccalister and JSN would have had the slowest 10 yard splits of anyone at the combine (among WR/CB) yet their 40 times were better than several prospects at the combine. In other words, it's silly to make a big deal out of JSN's 10 yard split as it likely isn't accurate. 

This is good logic. Appreciate it. I don’t have the best eye for how good a 40 looks but I thought he got out quickly when watching it but then reading the time I didn’t trust my eyes. But what you said above makes sense.

[RaidersAreOne]