BetterCallSaul Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: I don't understand: JSN just tab a 4.53, which isn't good or necessarily terrible and that all of a sudden solidifies him at the top? Why? That's not a good time. I'm not arguing that he won't go first round or maybe even first receiver, but how does that help him so much? He didn't run a 4.45. he ran a 4.53, which is considered on the slow side. Also, as was mentioned, it's a fast track. Yeah it’s not good. That said, he is still very good. Just limited in terms of how he’s gonna win at the NFL level. I feel like Zay Flowers is the best, with Addison and JSN breathing up the rear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: Yeah it’s not good. That said, he is still very good. Just limited in terms of how he’s gonna win at the NFL level. I feel like Zay Flowers is the best, with Addison and JSN breathing up the rear. I'd have a hard time grabbing JSN top-20. Folks are talking about him going as high as 9 to Chicago or most likely at 12 to Houston. It seems risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Girl Squad Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: I'd have a hard time grabbing JSN top-20. Folks are talking about him going as high as 9 to Chicago or most likely at 12 to Houston. It seems risky. Problem is this draft falls off pretty fast. Depending on how you grade things, there are maybe less than 20 true 'first round' talents this year. Taking a swing at maybe the best WR (a premium position) makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 OSU listed the official 40 as a 4.48 of course they are going to go with the best number. The concerning part is they have the 10 yard split at 1.65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, NudeTayne said: I'd have a hard time grabbing JSN top-20. Folks are talking about him going as high as 9 to Chicago or most likely at 12 to Houston. It seems risky. What WR in this class isn't risky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Also that very similar size and testing numbers to hartline. I don’t see him as a top 10 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Daniel said: What WR in this class isn't risky? That's why there's no one I would grab early. This looks like a late-first or second rounder area as value. There isn't a clear elite echelon this year, even though some guys could hit. 2 hours ago, Teen Girl Squad said: Problem is this draft falls off pretty fast. Depending on how you grade things, there are maybe less than 20 true 'first round' talents this year. Taking a swing at maybe the best WR (a premium position) makes sense. If he falls to 20 or so I feel a lot better about taking the risk on a guy with an "NFL starter" floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Billy Spikes with the scoop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 hours ago, NudeTayne said: I'd have a hard time grabbing JSN top-20. Folks are talking about him going as high as 9 to Chicago or most likely at 12 to Houston. It seems risky. Elite change of direction skills, elite route running, elite hands. I have no problem with him in the 8-15 range. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Does JSN even have the fire once he’s being paid? A lot of reports he could have played against UGA in the playoffs. How hungry is a kid like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetitans Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Scoundrel said: Does JSN even have the fire once he’s being paid? A lot of reports he could have played against UGA in the playoffs. How hungry is a kid like that What? Have you taken a look at the list of player or even just WR's who skipped their bowl game this year who had no injury at all? Cedric Tillman, Jalin Hyatt, and Josh Downs all skipped their games. Other players who will most likely be first round picks include, Myles Murphy Anthony Richardson, Will Levis, Michael Mayer, Christian Gonzalez, Joey Porter Jr., Bijan Robinson, and Tyree Wilson. These are all highly regarded players and likely picks in the top half of the first round. Do you have the same concern for them as you have for JSN? Now keep in mind JSN was injured and what you're saying is a rumor. These other guys were 100% healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, lovetitans said: What? Have you taken a look at the list of player or even just WR's who skipped their bowl game this year who had no injury at all? Cedric Tillman, Jalin Hyatt, and Josh Downs all skipped their games. Other players who will most likely be first round picks include, Myles Murphy Anthony Richardson, Will Levis, Michael Mayer, Christian Gonzalez, Joey Porter Jr., Bijan Robinson, and Tyree Wilson. These are all highly regarded players and likely picks in the top half of the first round. Do you have the same concern for them as you have for JSN? Now keep in mind JSN was injured and what you're saying is a rumor. These other guys were 100% healthy. Oh yeah because even a single one of those guys were competing for a national championship… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetitans Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Oh yeah because even a single one of those guys were competing for a national championship… That is irrelevant. you're saying quitting on your team because they're no longer in championship contention is ok? those guys still hungry but the actually injured player is the lazy guy just looking for a payday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, lovetitans said: That is irrelevant. you're saying quitting on your team because they're no longer in championship contention is ok? those guys still hungry but the actually injured player is the lazy guy just looking for a payday? It is very different when you have a championship on the line versus not. If you can’t see that this isn’t worth my time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, lovetitans said: What? Have you taken a look at the list of player or even just WR's who skipped their bowl game this year who had no injury at all? Cedric Tillman, Jalin Hyatt, and Josh Downs all skipped their games. Other players who will most likely be first round picks include, Myles Murphy Anthony Richardson, Will Levis, Michael Mayer, Christian Gonzalez, Joey Porter Jr., Bijan Robinson, and Tyree Wilson. These are all highly regarded players and likely picks in the top half of the first round. Do you have the same concern for them as you have for JSN? Now keep in mind JSN was injured and what you're saying is a rumor. These other guys were 100% healthy. Bowl games and going for a Natty are not even remotely the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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