Humble_Beast Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/24/2023 at 3:57 PM, Geezy said: Johnathan Allen for a 3rd? didn't he have a meltdown about losing. Imagine him in Vegas. He would be the next Raider to lose his mind lol. I do think trading for an alpha LB or DT, or all pro DB wouldn't be bad idea tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 20 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: didn't he have a meltdown about losing. Imagine him in Vegas. He would be the next Raider to lose his mind lol. I do think trading for an alpha LB or DT, or all pro DB wouldn't be bad idea tho Teams out there looking to offload their all pro talent I don't know about? Raiders have the luxury of trading multiple firsts for an all-pro talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, big_palooka said: Teams out there looking to offload their all pro talent I don't know about? Raiders have the luxury of trading multiple firsts for an all-pro talent? I mean to be fair, Byard was an all pro DB in 2021 and 2017...so yes it is possible but the Raiders shouldnt be trading for a 30 year old DB on the backend of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Slow mo been one of the worst rookies in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Watch pierce lite a fire under the rooks azz and he has his best game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Even if he fails, it wasn't a terrible pick like Grudens were. Leatherwood belong in the middle of the 2nd Round. Arnette was a THIRD round pick. This **** is NOT hindsight. However, Ziegler and McDaniels still failed in the draft terribly because we should have traded up to #3 for Richardson (Texans were not gonna give up Stroud). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: Even if he fails, it wasn't a terrible pick like Grudens were. Leatherwood belong in the middle of the 2nd Round. Arnette was a THIRD round pick. This **** is NOT hindsight. However, Ziegler and McDaniels still failed in the draft terribly because we should have traded up to #3 for Richardson (Texans were not gonna give up Stroud). Richardson is already hurt. He won’t last 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Just now, Bitty 2.0 said: Richardson is already hurt. He won’t last 4 years. He'll be fine. And the ideal time to win a Super Bowl is Year 3, 4, or 5 of a QB's career looking at history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: Even if he fails, it wasn't a terrible pick like Grudens were. Leatherwood belong in the middle of the 2nd Round. Arnette was a THIRD round pick. This **** is NOT hindsight. However, Ziegler and McDaniels still failed in the draft terribly because we should have traded up to #3 for Richardson (Texans were not gonna give up Stroud). It may not be Leatherwood, Arnette, Cle, Abram bad, but it would still be pretty bad. Taking an injured DE with what were clearly limited skills (proven, not "potential upside") in the top 10 following the season we had was insane. We're not talking a guy who played big boy ball amd dominated consistently with moves and/or speed that just caught an untimely injury. Wilson just was never "that" guy. Even if we didn't trade up for a QB, even if we couldn't trade down, there were simply better players available at positions of need we could have taken. At the time, we expected Jones back, so they took a backup DE top 10 like we were solid everywhere else- and that wasn't the case. We shouldn't have been drafting backup guys to wait in the wings like we were some successful team with a deep roster. You do that crap when you're good. I just hope whoever takes over actually looks over the roster and drafts based on what we actually need right now, not projects who need a few years to see what might be at some point if everything goes right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Richardson is already hurt. He won’t last 4 years. Plenty of guys get hurt every year. He'll be fine. Only thing he needs to do is learn to play a bit safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Tank4Drake said: Even if he fails, it wasn't a terrible pick like Grudens were. Leatherwood belong in the middle of the 2nd Round. Arnette was a THIRD round pick. This **** is NOT hindsight. However, Ziegler and McDaniels still failed in the draft terribly because we should have traded up to #3 for Richardson (Texans were not gonna give up Stroud). I agree in part but maybe we should have traded down, took the CB who fell out of Witherspoon, Gonzalez and Porter and then Will Levis, the QB with the highest ceiling? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 1:20 PM, Darbsk said: I agree in part but maybe we should have traded down, took the CB who fell out of Witherspoon, Gonzalez and Porter and then Will Levis, the QB with the highest ceiling? And still got a pass rusher with the extra 2nd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 12:32 PM, ronjon1990 said: It may not be Leatherwood, Arnette, Cle, Abram bad, but it would still be pretty bad. Taking an injured DE with what were clearly limited skills (proven, not "potential upside") in the top 10 following the season we had was insane. We're not talking a guy who played big boy ball amd dominated consistently with moves and/or speed that just caught an untimely injury. Wilson just was never "that" guy. Even if we didn't trade up for a QB, even if we couldn't trade down, there were simply better players available at positions of need we could have taken. At the time, we expected Jones back, so they took a backup DE top 10 like we were solid everywhere else- and that wasn't the case. We shouldn't have been drafting backup guys to wait in the wings like we were some successful team with a deep roster. You do that crap when you're good. I just hope whoever takes over actually looks over the roster and drafts based on what we actually need right now, not projects who need a few years to see what might be at some point if everything goes right. Yea plus position wise it’s easier to rotate a dl, db and hide them vs a olineman who plays almost every offensive snap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 hours ago, raidr4life said: And still got a pass rusher with the extra 2nd Yep, it was deep there. Tuipolotu and the other Byron Young were obvious candidates moving down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Played a season low 27% of our defensive snaps against Miami, dude is looking like Ferrell Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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