raidr4life Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Devilshark69 said: Btw, for those bemoaning the qb process....even if we had say pick #7 or 6 hypothetically speaking. It still not a guarantee we'd get any of the top 3. Just gotta wait and see how it plays out unfortunately. I'm just hoping for one of the 6, at a decent value spot (I know, that's hoping for a lot.) 4th at best because the top 3 teams need QB's. You would have to hope it goes. 1. Caleb 2. Maye 3. McCarthy. Then you would need to get to 4 for Daniels. Even if Daniels goes 3 and we want McCarthy we still would need to get to 4 after that. Charger at 5 won't trade with us, so we're are screwed out of the top 4. So it's Nix, Penix, or Rattler later in the draft. Edited March 17 by raidr4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, raidr4life said: 4th at best because the top 3 teams need QB's. You would have to hope it goes. 1. Caleb 2. Maye 3. McCarthy. Then you would need to get to 4 for Daniels. Even if Daniels goes 3 and we want McCarthy we still would need to get to 4 after that. Charger at 5 won't trade with us, so we're are screwed out of the top 4. So it's Nix, Penix, or Rattler later in the draft. I agree, all we can do as fans is A) hope we get 1 of em and B) hope he ends up being a good qb for us.🤞🍻 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 9 minutes ago, Devilshark69 said: I agree, all we can do as fans is A) hope we get 1 of em and B) hope he ends up being a good qb for us.🤞🍻 I feel like going to number 4 is a smart move. At 4 you can 100% land McCarthy WORST case scenario, grab an elite talent in another area, or hope Jayden drops. All of these are WINS for this franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, raidr4life said: 4th at best because the top 3 teams need QB's. You would have to hope it goes. 1. Caleb 2. Maye 3. McCarthy. Then you would need to get to 4 for Daniels. Even if Daniels goes 3 and we want McCarthy we still would need to get to 4 after that. Charger at 5 won't trade with us, so we're are screwed out of the top 4. So it's Nix, Penix, or Rattler later in the draft. Personally I think after Daniels pro day we might see him rise to top 3. Maybe 2. I can’t see McCarthy going top 3 after being a fringe 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 46 minutes ago, Chali21 said: Personally I think after Daniels pro day we might see him rise to top 3. Maybe 2. I can’t see McCarthy going top 3 after being a fringe 1st. I know it's smoke screen season but the Patriots reportedly aren't super high on Drake Maye. I think Caleb / Daniels are going top 2 and then it's kinda questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101Raider Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2024 at 7:24 PM, Jerry said: Yeah. That’s essentially where we’re at. Either that or we do what I want, which is BPA at 13, Penix or Nix drops to like pick 25-30, then we trade up and take them near the end of the first round so we have that 5th year option. I agree, that’s the most palatable of the options imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Totty said: I feel like going to number 4 is a smart move. At 4 you can 100% land McCarthy WORST case scenario, grab an elite talent in another area, or hope Jayden drops. All of these are WINS for this franchise. Can't argue the logic, but we might have to outbid minny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Played around with a mock draft sim on PFN. Best case scenario IMO with no trades and trying to be realistic. Round 1. Taliese Fuaga OT, OSU Round 2. Michael Penix QB, UW Round 3. Mile Sanristil CB, UM Round 4. Maason Smith DL, LSU Round 5. MarShawn Lloyd RB, USC Round 6. Nehemiah Pritchett CB, AUB Round 7a: Frank Crum, OT WYO Round 7b: Jordan Whittington WR, UT 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, CaliforniaKid7 said: Played around with a mock draft sim on PFN. Best case scenario IMO with no trades and trying to be realistic. Round 1. Taliese Fuaga OT, OSU Round 2. Michael Penix QB, UW Round 3. Mile Sanristil CB, UM Round 4. Maason Smith DL, LSU Round 5. MarShawn Lloyd RB, USC Round 6. Nehemiah Pritchett CB, AUB Round 7a: Frank Crum, OT WYO Round 7b: Jordan Whittington WR, UT If Penix actually falls this far it would be a great draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 hours ago, Totty said: I feel like going to number 4 is a smart move. At 4 you can 100% land McCarthy WORST case scenario, grab an elite talent in another area, or hope Jayden drops. All of these are WINS for this franchise. Trading to #4 before the draft not knowing who you’ll get would be meh. Unless you just absolutely love all 4 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, NYRaider said: Trading to #4 before the draft not knowing who you’ll get would be meh. Unless you just absolutely love all 4 guys. We need a QB. We love all 4 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 A few things based on recent posts: Trading up to #4 would be extremely expensive considering the Cardinals would have to give up on drafting a generational-level receiver prospect. JJ McCarthy is not a can't miss prospect. History tells us he is more likely to fail than succeed. Besides Daniels and probably Williams, we have no idea who the Raiders covet at QB in this draft. Trading back up into the first round is a more rational move considering the consensus difference between McCarthy, Nix, and Penix is less than McCarthy and the consensus top 3. This is all contingent on the Raiders' actual evaluation of these players. Based on draft media evaluations, McCarthy is not definitely a better prospect than Nix and Penix. Penix is the only one that has been viewed as the consensus sixth ranked prospect since January. Nix was ranked ahead of McCarthy until right after the combine, and most outlets have them nearly side-by-side. Evaluators like Matt Waldman and Greg Cosell rank Nix ahead of McCarthy. McCarthy's elevation into the top 10 has been based on hearsay, not player evaluation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 11 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: If Penix actually falls this far it would be a great draft Who’s going to draft QB now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 For those who haven't seen Hondo's mock: https://www.si.com/nfl/raiders/the-black-hole-plus/olumuyiwa-fashanu-las-vegas-raiders-nfl-mock-draft-caleb-williams-jayden-daniels-jj-mccarthy Quote 13. Las Vegas OLUMUYIWA FASHANU OT PENN STATE Rd. 2 No. 44 Spencer Rattler, QB South Carolina Rd. 3 No. 77 Kiran Amegadjie, OL Yale Rd. 4 No. 112 Braden Fiske, DT Florida State Rd. 5 No. 148 Zak Zinter, G, Michigan Rd. 6 No. 208 Ray Davis, RB, Kentucky Rd. 7 No. 223 M.J. Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh Rd. 7 No. 229 Tarheeb Still, CB, Maryland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Fashanu will be the first OT off the board and it won’t be at 13 and Fiske will be a high second round pick same with the OT from Yale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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