CWood21 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Old Guy said: He's not turning it down per se, he's delaying it a year. The risks associated with that are something, he and his family have to weigh. I think he's coming out, 100%. And running the risk of a career-altering injury? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, CWood21 said: In no recent years (let's say last 15 years) has a player returned to college after being the consensus #1 overall pick. The "closet" comparison to what you're arguing is when Brian Brohm returned to Louisville for his senior year after he was favored to be the top pick. And even then, I'd argue he would have had to contend with JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, and Calvin Johnson for the top pick in the draft. The most recents I could think of were Manning, Leinart, and Ron Dayne all sticking around for their senior years back in the (early) aughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tperk Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: And running the risk of a career-altering injury? Nah. Don't most highly ranked college players have some sort of insurance policy that covers them in case of major injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: According to ON3's evaluation, there are only 26 college athletes with NIL values of $1M+. Of those 26, 19 of those are CFB players. Of those 19, only 3 (Travis Hunter, MHJ, and Evan Stewart) are non-QBs. The notion that players are getting 7 or 8 figure NIL deals isn't real. And you managed to mention 2 guys who entered the league in 1983. That's well before the advent of the rookie cap, and that's nearly 40 years ago. In no recent years (let's say last 15 years) has a player returned to college after being the consensus #1 overall pick. The "closet" comparison to what you're arguing is when Brian Brohm returned to Louisville for his senior year after he was favored to be the top pick. And even then, I'd argue he would have had to contend with JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, and Calvin Johnson for the top pick in the draft. If I understand the numbers you quote, there are 16 college QB’s making more than 1 million per year- A 7 figure salary . i would venture to say the first round QB’s are in that group. So yeah, my question is relevant to the players being discussed. I think most fans are underestimating how these payments to star players will increase as collectives expand their donation/ income structure. i get the point about the old days vs recent times. I just think the landscape is changing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tperk Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Heh....just realized that TJ Rubleys kid is a backup QB at Kansas State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 0% chance Williams goes back to USC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Leader said: Kelly didnt want to play in Buffalo? Funny given how his career played out. Quote The man who would become Buffalo’s football idol once explained his decision to reporters by saying, “I could go on for days and days why I picked the USFL over the NFL. Would you rather be in Houston or Buffalo? I’ll stop there.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 The idea that guys like Williams and/or Sanders are going to delay their entry into the NFL because of NIL is nonsense... for now. I think it could become a real thing down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: The idea that guys like Williams and/or Sanders are going to delay their entry into the NFL because of NIL is nonsense... for now. I think it could become a real thing down the road. Sanders may delay just because of who his dad is and playing another year as a shot as QB1 in the 2025 draft and his hype dying down. It won't be because of NIL in his case. Williams is 100% going pro no matter what his dad says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: If I understand the numbers you quote, there are 16 college QB’s making more than 1 million per year- A 7 figure salary . i would venture to say the first round QB’s are in that group. So yeah, my question is relevant to the players being discussed. I think most fans are underestimating how these payments to star players will increase as collectives expand their donation/ income structure. i get the point about the old days vs recent times. I just think the landscape is changing again. Again, we're talking about a projected $3.2M for Caleb Williams this year as opposed to the $24.6M signing bonus that Bryce Young just signed for. Compare that to the $4M signing bonus that Will Levis signed for, and that's not chump change. That's a substantial amount of money that Caleb Williams is willing to walk away from simply because he "doesn't want to play" for that franchise. When a clear #1 overall pick returns to college, wake me up. It's a leverage ploy. A poor leverage ploy, but a leverage ploy nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: The idea that guys like Williams and/or Sanders are going to delay their entry into the NFL because of NIL is nonsense... for now. I think it could become a real thing down the road. I mean, it's substantially harder to tell you dad no especially when you're not the presumptive #1 overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Sanders needs to get out of that Colorado program ASAP. Last week he was hit so much he had to be injected with painkillers at halftime. For the game he was sacked 7 times and hit another 17 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaire_Island Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Old Guy said: The dude averaging 3.3 yards per carry? No thanks! Last year he averaged 5 per carry This is he was used mostly near goal line situations hence he is averaging less since Bijan is there lead back. Edited November 4, 2023 by Jaire_Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jaire_Island said: Last year he averaged 5 per carry This is he was used mostly near goal line situations hence he is averaging less since Bijan is there lead back. Sorry dude, he's got over 100 carries, so he's not just being used in goal line situations. He also only has 2 rushing TDs and no receiving TDs. So, if he's their goal line back, he sucks at it. Easy pass. 2023 REGULAR SEASON STATS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: It is kind of humorous. I think he probably views it differently now than he did on draft day. Back then the Buffalo Bills sucked. One of the last places players wanted to go. Kelly eventually had impact in turning it around. Kinda like Favre in Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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