hornbybrown Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, freakygeniuskid said: I think Morton (OC - Jets) should be high on people's priority lists this year. The dude is still in his 40's and has proved this year that he's willing to do unconventional things with his scheme to fit his personnel. As opposed to some coaches who think the FO's job is to get only players perfectly tailored to their pre-determined schemes. Yeah I’m still stunned by the Hue Jackson quote. I also feel the one time I wanted the Cleveland media to rip into something they have dropped a open TD pass on this one. its one of the most baffling comments I have heard from a coach in all my years watching sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, hornbybrown said: Yeah I’m still stunned by the Hue Jackson quote. I also feel the one time I wanted the Cleveland media to rip into something they have dropped a open TD pass on this one. its one of the most baffling comments I have heard from a coach in all my years watching sport Doug Lesmires (spelling it wrong) ripped into him something fierce. And a handful of the younger national guys (Ringer, couple ESPN guys even) have written some really scathing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, freakygeniuskid said: Doug Lesmires (spelling it wrong) ripped into him something fierce. And a handful of the younger national guys (Ringer, couple ESPN guys even) have written some really scathing stuff. I’m glad to hear this, but still disappointed in the local media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathouse Sticks Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 9:52 AM, Bucketheadsdad said: Heck, I think I'm to the point where I'd trade him for A.J. Duhe. ......and he's a 62 year old linebacker. Yeah, but only if the Dolphins throw in Bob Baumauer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathouse Sticks Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 12/7/2017 at 8:31 AM, MSURacerDT55 said: Even if we retain Hue, how do we all of the sudden change our culture of being pushovers? I think the Dorsey hire was a start. Getting rid of Britt and Tregg was a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathouse Sticks Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 12/8/2017 at 2:05 PM, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I don't think any less of Hue, he did what he had to do to keep his job. Haslam is the problem. Hue just ran his last excuse out of town though. 2018 is put up or shut up. I'll give him a shot. I go back and forth on Hue. I think if he gets fired, it’s easy to say, well he did go 1-31. Hard to argue with that logic. If he stays, I could live with that, too, as I don’t feel he had enough talent to win, and comments from Dorsey seem to support that view. So how can you honestly say he had a really fair shot. So when Haslam said Hue would be back in 2018, I was fine with that. However, I listened to the podcast of Baskin and Phelps interview with Sam Rutigliano. Sam has forgotten more about football than I’ll ever know. And Sam said when Hue says all these wins are on him, he is right! It is on Hue and a change is needed. Sam says Dorsey needs to clean house and start over. So, if a knowledgeable coach such as Sam says that, then perhaps that’s what’s needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, hornbybrown said: Yeah I’m still stunned by the Hue Jackson quote. I am not. 1 hour ago, hornbybrown said: its one of the most baffling comments I have heard from a coach in all my years watching sport It is backassward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Kathouse Sticks said: I go back and forth on Hue. I think if he gets fired, it’s easy to say, well he did go 1-31. Hard to argue with that logic. If he stays, I could live with that, too, as I don’t feel he had enough talent to win, and comments from Dorsey seem to support that view. So how can you honestly say he had a really fair shot. So when Haslam said Hue would be back in 2018, I was fine with that. However, I listened to the podcast of Baskin and Phelps interview with Sam Rutigliano. Sam has forgotten more about football than I’ll ever know. And Sam said when Hue says all these wins are on him, he is right! It is on Hue and a change is needed. Sam says Dorsey needs to clean house and start over. So, if a knowledgeable coach such as Sam says that, then perhaps that’s what’s needed. I don't hold a BAD record against Hue, but I do hold 1-28. This is not the least talented Browns team we've seen. I'd argue this team, for at least part of the year, had the most talented offensive and defensive lines we've had since our return and possibly the best set of linebackers and TE's. While awful, I'm not sure our WR's were much better with the corpse of Dwayne Bowe and Andrew Hawkins a few years ago. I just think a GOOD coach finds a way to get a COUPLE of wins. Last year was rough with the qb injuries, new scheme, etc, but the offense regressed and talent was both added and developed since then. 0-the season is unacceptable if you are a GOOD coach. Not saying Hue is bad, but he sure as hell hasn't shown to be GOOD. This roster, as young and full of holes as it may be, is not a 1-28 roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I just think a GOOD coach finds a way to get a COUPLE of wins. At least. But our coach/coordinator was more concerned with covering his arse by killing Sashi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 6 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Not saying Hue is bad, but he sure as hell hasn't shown to be GOOD. Depends on who you ask really. It seems Hue and the rest of the world have a difference of opinion, I'm not sure who I side with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 17 hours ago, buno67 said: coaches, some media members, and some fans have been saying it’s been the talent. The talent and the make up of the roster is the reason the browns won’t win 7+ wins. It’s the freaking coaching that is the reason we won’t even win one game. Unless of course, they intended to tank the season to get the #1 overall pick = Darnold. Perhaps Sashi believed he was safe having been given a guarantee he had 5 years to get the job done, by our great incompetent owner and suggested strongly to Hue, that Kizer start, knowing full well it would be a disaster???. My main reason for wanting Hue gone is simple. In any reasonable organization, in or out of football, when you hire a new GM/CEO, you give them the authority to hire their top subordinates and not have a subordinate bypass the GM/CEO and report directly to the owner, this is called organizational suicide!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 For me, reading this thread gives me the feeling that Noah must have had watching all the animals board the ark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Iamcanadian said: Unless of course, they intended to tank the season to get the #1 overall pick = Darnold. Perhaps Sashi believed he was safe having been given a guarantee he had 5 years to get the job done, by our great incompetent owner and suggested strongly to Hue, that Kizer start, knowing full well it would be a disaster???. My main reason for wanting Hue gone is simple. In any reasonable organization, in or out of football, when you hire a new GM/CEO, you give them the authority to hire their top subordinates and not have a subordinate bypass the GM/CEO and report directly to the owner, this is called organizational suicide!!! I think dorsry will have that power. He had that issue in KC. Where he the HC was reporting to someone else besides him. It lead to him being fired in KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Dude can’t even properly shave and clean his head. You guys see his interview with shaving cream on his head and by he left ear...what a joke lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, buno67 said: Dude can’t even properly shave and clean his head. You guys see his interview with shaving cream on his head and by he left ear...what a joke lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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