Pugger Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, ReadyToThump said: Did you say celebrate...an OT win...against the Browns...? Yes. With Hundley? On the road? I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 52 minutes ago, deltarich87 said: I figured that is what happened .. big mistake .. was probably an Aaron Jones TD run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Mazrimiv said: So I guess it wasn't all hyperbole to suggest that this GB team w/o Rodgers is close to the same level as CLE. I give MM a lot of credit for making effective adjustments to help salvage this game when it was on the brink. It seemed to me that the switch to the quick passing game really got Hundley into a nice rhythm, and CLE never really solved it. I've posted plenty of negative stuff about MM's game day adjustments, but I thought he came up big today. The Packers are 3-4 with Hundley as a starter. Saying that we're close to the same level as Cleveland is pretty hyperbolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: Anybody that thinks cutting Matthews to sign a pass rusher is a good idea doesn't know how the history of pass rushers has been in free agency since, say, 2005. If a pass rusher deserves to be paid, his team will pay him. Otherwise, why did they leave the team? You don't let great or even good pass rushers hit free agency. Olivier Vernon? Dude's got 3.5 sacks right now. You don't get top pass rushers in free agency. You can find the Peppers types, but those types aren't forcing you to cut Clay Matthews when you have 33 million dollars in cap space like we will. Eh Calais Campbell has 12.5. I agree in not cutting Clay, but there are always vet pass rushers (like Clay) that come available and do good things for their new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Jordy signed 2 under market deals for us, kind of a slap in the face to him IMO to ask for it back. Jordy would make make more money from GB in 2019 and 2020 than he would anywhere else. We're the only team that he would be a good WR on yet. So it makes sense to give him more guaranteed money over 3 years (than in 2018 alone) for both him and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 We have had a history of guys NOT griping about their contracts, NOT talking about early restructures to get more money etc etc. The Packers seem to be loyal in return as far as guys finishing out bigger deals. I don't know if there is something to that "system," I just have a hard time thinking we are going to go around asking for paycuts or flat out cutting guys. No other reason other than we just havent done it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Slinky said: Take away 2 terrible calls, and we lose. They didn't call PI on us which would've given the Browns the ball at the 1, and likely scoring a TD. That play alone would've made OT impossible. Then calling pathetic PI on them on that pass to Adams on 3rd down. Instead of punting, our drive continues and we score a TD. This isn't that hard, guy. Stop being such a homer. But in the end, with the game on the line, which team made the plays and which team didn't? The line between winning and losing in this league is very fine. The team that screws up the least usually wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Pugger said: If his QB doesn't toss that ball up for grabs in OT they win that game. Hopefully for them Dorsey can find them a legit QB. Not sure I agree that CLE wins the game if not for the INT. Even without the INT, GB was about to force a punt. The GB offense was moving the ball very well in Q4, and that obviously continued into OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 17 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'm looking at it from a numbers' perspective, I don't think the Packers can afford to release Clay. I think I agree .. I don't think the dude is worth his salary, but how do you improve a pass rush by eliminating one of your two best rushers? Maybe they can rework a new 3 year deal to lower the numbers a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 55 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: It's clear we need another starting caliber at OLB and CB. NEED IT. We need a true pass rusher from either LB or DL more than another CB IMO. We cannot get any pressure on the QB no matter who we play and its killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, cannondale said: We have had a history of guys NOT griping about their contracts, NOT talking about early restructures to get more money etc etc. The Packers seem to be loyal in return as far as guys finishing out bigger deals. I don't know if there is something to that "system," I just have a hard time thinking we are going to go around asking for paycuts or flat out cutting guys. No other reason other than we just havent done it I suspect this way more to do with not having bad contracts on the books before. What is the worst pay for play we've had recently? Didn't we cut Hawk when he was awful value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, deltarich87 said: When they showed the replay I thought that might have been the case. Looked like everything was setup for Hundley give up the ball. Looked like a TD if he gets the ball to the RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, Pugger said: If your QB doesn't toss it up for grabs instead of taking the sack in OT you guys most likely win. We're the Browns. We would have probably still found a way to lose. It's what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, incognito_man said: I suspect this way more to do with not having bad contracts on the books before. What is the worst pay for play we've had recently? Didn't we cut Hawk when he was awful value? Hawk, Brad Jones, Martellus Bennett are the 3 worst deals I can think of as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: I don't like Cobb at all and I was I think one of like three people that didn't want to re-sign him (go to the archives if you don't believe me). Still, it don't make no damn sense to cut Cobb. We don't need it. We're not signing a big name free agent at any position. The way I see our pass rush next year is Perry, First round pick, June 1st cut, Biegel and Fackrell. I've looked through who is available and there isn't a single player that inspires any sort of anything. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/outside-linebacker/ we aren't keeping cobb, jordy and a new contract Adams in 2018. So you have to pick at least one to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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