candyman93 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: There's still some smoke and mirrors, though, and the realist in me kinda expects it all to flame out in spectacular fashion. To be fair, 31 teams are going to experience this sensation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdish Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, ReggieCamp said: It's been a fun ride, and Berry has a lot to do with it. There's still some smoke and mirrors, though, and the realist in me kinda expects it all to flame out in spectacular fashion. Obviously, we have loads of starters on IR, a street FA at QB, and oh, by the way, we're turning it over more than any team in the league. I'm not that smart, but even I know that can't continue. Some of you guys will fight me on this one, but if dushbag was healthy, we'd be in the Superb Owl conversation right now. As it is, a playoff berth (and maybe even a playoff win or 2) will be just fine. And Berry deserves a lot of the credit. I have no expectations of Super Bowl contention this season, with or without dushbag, given all of the other key injuries. I'm amazed and grateful that the players, coaches, and FO have gotten us this far, and making the playoffs would be a monumental accomplishment...not only for this season but hopefully in the turning around of the culture of this team for the future. Edited December 22, 2023 by dawgdish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscottdai Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 You are killing me with the continued use of "dushbag" lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 hours ago, ReggieCamp said: It's been a fun ride, and Berry has a lot to do with it. There's still some smoke and mirrors, though, and the realist in me kinda expects it all to flame out in spectacular fashion. Obviously, we have loads of starters on IR, a street FA at QB, and oh, by the way, we're turning it over more than any team in the league. I'm not that smart, but even I know that can't continue. Some of you guys will fight me on this one, but if dushbag was healthy, we'd be in the Superb Owl conversation right now. As it is, a playoff berth (and maybe even a playoff win or 2) will be just fine. And Berry deserves a lot of the credit. Ok when was the last time a qb with a 83.5 rating went deep into the playoffs? when was the last time a qb with a 91 rating in the playoffs lead his team to the superbowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieCamp Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, mtmmike said: Ok when was the last time a qb with a 83.5 rating went deep into the playoffs? when was the last time a qb with a 91 rating in the playoffs lead his team to the superbowl. It happens almost every year. Literally almost every single year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: It happens almost every year. Literally almost every single year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 in 2019 Brady had a rating of 88 and Goff 86.5 and they both made the conference championship game. The answer is 2018 Blake Bortles. He was 79.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) I still can’t get over the fact that we have the most turnovers in the NFL at 30 and we’re still winning. Just ignore the whole injury problems. Although, not all turnovers are created equal. For example, did your QB throw an INT because he can’t read a defense or was he being ultra aggressive and attacking the defense? Obviously I don’t want a turnover, but I want my QB constantly attacking. That eventually opens other things up. I call it the “Brett Favre” effect. Edited December 22, 2023 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, candyman93 said: I still can’t get over the fact that we have the most turnovers in the NFL at 30 and we’re still winning. Just ignore the whole injury problems. Although, not all turnovers are created equal. For example, did your QB throw an INT because he can’t read a defense or was he being ultra aggressive and attacking the defense? Obviously I don’t want a turnover, but I want my QB constantly attacking. That eventually opens other things up. I call it the “Brett Favre” effect. There’s also a pick on 3rd and long that’s essentially an arm punt while taking a shot vs early down turnovers on your side of the field. That said, we’ve had a whole lot of the latter this year lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: There’s also a pick on 3rd and long that’s essentially an arm punt while taking a shot vs early down turnovers on your side of the field. That said, we’ve had a whole lot of the latter this year lol. I personally will never kill a QB for plays like these. Even if it hypothetically ended up being an INT. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/X8hIomouw8E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, candyman93 said: I personally will never kill a QB for plays like these. Even if it hypothetically ended up being an INT. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/X8hIomouw8E I think it depends on the situation, but when you’re losing and you have an elite speed guy 1:1 you take that shot every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 18 hours ago, candyman93 said: I still can’t get over the fact that we have the most turnovers in the NFL at 30 and we’re still winning. Just ignore the whole injury problems. Although, not all turnovers are created equal. For example, did your QB throw an INT because he can’t read a defense or was he being ultra aggressive and attacking the defense? Obviously I don’t want a turnover, but I want my QB constantly attacking. That eventually opens other things up. I call it the “Brett Favre” effect. Agree, context is important. Turnovers that lead to short field points and/or take points off the board inside FG range or the Red Zone are back breakers and we have had far too many of those. Pittsburgh and Denver come to mind immediately, as does Seattle to a degree. If it’s a third down and you chuck it downfield 50 yards and the defender is tackled right away, no real harm done. First down? Second and short? Those can’t happen either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDD Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Agree, context is important. Turnovers that lead to short field points and/or take points off the board inside FG range or the Red Zone are back breakers and we have had far too many of those. Pittsburgh and Denver come to mind immediately, as does Seattle to a degree. If it’s a third down and you chuck it downfield 50 yards and the defender is tackled right away, no real harm done. First down? Second and short? Those can’t happen either. I think we have given up 5-6 pick 6 or scoop and scores. Then 3-4 inside the 10 turnovers. It’s insane. I think it shows how good this team could be. Don’t turn the ball over, good things happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 22 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: in 2019 Brady had a rating of 88 and Goff 86.5 and they both made the conference championship game. The answer is 2018 Blake Bortles. He was 79.8 So 6 years that is playoffs ratings Tom has a plus 100 playoff rating career wise also with Blake that makes it a 12to 1 against you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, mtmmike said: So 6 years that is playoffs ratings Tom has a plus 100 playoff rating career wise also with Blake that makes it a 12to 1 against you @Thomas5737, your retort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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