Mind Character Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, ohiogenius said: SOLD Everything I read makes me confident he will fix flaws in his game. I was more worried he doesnt have the speed to play CB Fair enough. He certainly has the play speed. Great player...but he's not a splash impact day 1 lock down CB. So, is that worth top 5. Saquon fits that mold...as does Chubb. If it's down to Minkah I'm starting to feel myself being in the trade down camp and betting on 2 or 3 DBs w/ the draft capital on foregoing selecting 1 (Minkah) I don't know. I might disagree with myself on that after hearing how Nick Saban feels Minkah is the best DB he's ever coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Yeah James is totally different now from his freshman year that injury has for sure impacted his game Denzel Ward honestly would be a really good pick him or Josh Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Is there any interest in a sizeable trade back from 4 and taking Orlando Brown Jr? It's not one of my top choices, but if we could get a big haul, I'm not completely against nailing down that LT spot with elite protection for the next decade plus for Darnold. My other options are Saquon, who is starting to gain some real traction to the Colts at 3, or a small trade down to a QB desperate team and still take Minkah or Chubb. Not as keen on Chubb because we already have a star pass rusher and another highly drafted, rock solid DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I would rather not lose the chance of getting a top trier at #4. I’d rather trade up back into the first to get another top talent. I would love a draft of like Darnold Barkley and Browns. I just hate taking a Top tier LT and having him move to RT for a couple season until JT Retire and than moving them back. I would hate for that move to RT to screw up his game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Ideally we get a team like the Jets,Broncos or Cardinals to get desperate enough for the remaining QBs that they sell farm for them. Get a 4th 2nd combine two for a 1. walk out with Darnold,Guice,Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Mind Character said: This is definitely an original take I love that each person making the take was not aware someone else already made it. 13 hours ago, Mind Character said: Solid player has trouble with eye discipline and quick triggering to break up passes in the post. Really good quick trigger when it comes to run support. I see him as a 2nd half of the round/ bottom of the 2nd round player even though he's being projected much higher. Love him at the Eagles pick, but if we are going FS at the top of round 2.....then give me Justin Reid out of Stanford You like him better than his brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 13 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: Solid debate buddy. Glad you came around. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Something to kill 5 min re: running backs in round 1.... http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19232156/if-draft-running-back-round-1-better-awesome-2017-nfl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 54 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: I love that each person making the take was not aware someone else already made it. You like him better than his brother? Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Aztec Hammer said: Is there any interest in a sizeable trade back from 4 and taking Orlando Brown Jr? It's not one of my top choices, but if we could get a big haul, I'm not completely against nailing down that LT spot with elite protection for the next decade plus for Darnold. My other options are Saquon, who is starting to gain some real traction to the Colts at 3, or a small trade down to a QB desperate team and still take Minkah or Chubb. Not as keen on Chubb because we already have a star pass rusher and another highly drafted, rock solid DE. Orlando Brown is a freaking monster. I was initially worried he wouldn't have the feet to pass protect, but watching him on film, he doesn't struggle with speed rushers. He's also an insanely good run blocker and murdered Roquan Smith multiple times in the playoff game on down blocks. It's a nightmare that he, at 350+, can get to the next level so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, BleedTheClock said: Orlando Brown is a freaking monster. I was initially worried he wouldn't have the feet to pass protect, but watching him on film, he doesn't struggle with speed rushers. He's also an insanely good run blocker and murdered Roquan Smith multiple times in the playoff game on down blocks. It's a nightmare that he, at 350+, can get to the next level so quickly. A nightmare for the opposition, a dream for us that he would be protecting Darnold and allowing him to drop dimes all over the field. What's the consensus on Brown in terms of draft position? Top 10? I possibly wouldn't even mind trading up from 33 for him if it wasn't a major move to make and didn't involve a first rounder. Doubt that's possible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, Aztec Hammer said: A nightmare for the opposition, a dream for us that he would be protecting Darnold and allowing him to drop dimes all over the field. What's the consensus on Brown in terms of draft position? Top 10? I possibly wouldn't even mind trading up from 33 for him if it wasn't a major move to make and didn't involve a first rounder. Doubt that's possible though. People seem to have him ranked as the 3rd OT behind McGlinchey and Williams. I like Williams but not McGlinchey. I would probably put Orlando Brown as my #1 OT right now. My expectation is that he goes in the 16-22 range in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Brown will be the first tackle taken hes a monster forgot all this Willams and guy from ND crap i think both of them will bust Orlando is going to be a monster in the league. He’s blue chip if I had to pick one player to pan out in this draft it’d be Orlando Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: People seem to have him ranked as the 3rd OT behind McGlinchey and Williams. I like Williams but not McGlinchey. I would probably put Orlando Brown as my #1 OT right now. My expectation is that he goes in the 16-22 range in the draft. I'm all about giving Darnold every single advantage possible to succeed. It's that important. If that means giving him Joe Thomas and Orlando Brown at tackle, so be it. Could you imagine somehow getting: 1 - Sam Darnold QB 4 - Saquon Barkley RB 20ish (trade up with Eagles 2nd and a 4th) - Orlando Brown Jr T 35 - Christian Kirk WR Maybe its not truly conceivable. But Sam Darnold would love us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 13 hours ago, Mind Character said: @BleedTheClock What are you seein my man... Not a great game from him, but he played a ton of high safety, including single high. He does not have the instincts of Fitzpatrick yet and might never hit that level, but I'm banking on his potential, tenacity, and twitch. Derwin James is indeed a better SS prospect than a FS, but I think with his speed and lateral agility, he could become a dominant ball-hawking FS in time. He's certainly a better fit at FS than Peppers is in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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