MSURacerDT55 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I firmly believe that Ogbah is just as good if not better. I'd major facepalm if we take him at #4. -He has only one speed -Average athlete -Slightly above average technique Im sorry but that doesn't = a top 5 prospect. He's in the tier of the Derek Barnett, Charles Harris, Taco Charlton than he is a Myles Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I firmly believe that Ogbah is just as good if not better. I'd major facepalm if we take him at #4. I’m not on Team Chubb either at 4. With that said, half the forum is against a RB at 4, same with Chubb, and there’s a growing number saying Minkah isn’t worth it at 4. If we don’t trade back, something has to give. I’m still hoping we fleece a trade back just a couple spots and land a guy like Minkah. What I don’t want is a trade back into the teens for a guy that’s perceived #3 at his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, NateDawg said: I’m not on Team Chubb either at 4. With that said, half the forum is against a RB at 4, same with Chubb, and there’s a growing number saying Minkah isn’t worth it at 4. If we don’t trade back, something has to give. I’m still hoping we fleece a trade back just a couple spots and land a guy like Minkah. What I don’t want is a trade back into the teens for a guy that’s perceived #3 at his position. I'm noticing this as well. That said, what if there are positions where there are several guys around the same talent (like CB where there may be as many as five or six CB1s coming out)? Or a position that isn't worth grabbing high but would have decent value lower (like Ridley, Sutton at WR in the teens/20s)? Or if we can grab one of the top tackles before they're all gone without having to spend a top-10 pick? There are some things to consider here, though your point makes sense. I'm one of those eyeing Buffalo for the two high picks. I believe we could do something great right there based on how this draft class appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Darnold / Rosen / Mayfield / Allen / Lamar Saquon Ridley / Sutton McGlinchey / Orlando Brown Q. Nelson Chubb / Davenport Tremaine Edmunds / Roquon Minkah, Derwin Josh Jackson, Denzel Ward, Carlton Davis To me, that's 18 top players. I see all those QBs going top 20, so if even one or two surprises happen, we'd likely have two of these guys (plus another pick) instead of choosing Barkley, Minkah or Chubb. Even one of those guys and Isaiah Oliver, Sony Michel, Derrius Guice, Billy Price etc. wouldn't be terrible IMO, though I wouldn't want two of these guys instead of a top-4 guy. I can see us grabbing Orlando Brown/Carlton Davis, for example--seems like better value IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 hours ago, NateDawg said: With that said, half the forum is against a RB at 4, same with Chubb, and there’s a growing number saying Minkah isn’t worth it at 4. None seem to equal or exceed the draft assets/talent value we could gain through trade down. 5 hours ago, NudeTayne said: I'm one of those eyeing Buffalo for the two high picks. I believe we could do something great right there based on how this draft class appears. ARIZ is my beach. But I could see getting BUF's two #1s + and using our 4s, 3 and 2s in combination with them to trade up for who we want this year and to gain 2019 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgpoun8017 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 If we’re trading down from 4 to 21 and 22 we better get a supreme haul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 hours ago, NudeTayne said: Orlando Brown He is garbage...he has no feet and no balance. He's massive and would've been exposed in the pass rush if Oklahoma didn't get the ball out at a lightning clip as push rushers got him skating all over the place. Everything else you wrote makes complete sense. He's one of my least liked players in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1. Mayfield 4. Derwin James Trade 33 and 35 to move up for Orlando Brown. Thoughts @Mind Character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: 1. Mayfield 4. Derwin James Trade 33 and 35 to move up for Orlando Brown. Thoughts @Mind Character? Don't know what @Mind Characterwould say but I would say close to a worst possible use of draft assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Just now, bruceb said: Don't know what @Mind Characterwould say but I would say close to a worst possible use of draft assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: 1. Mayfield 4. Derwin James Trade 33 and 35 to move up for Orlando Brown. Thoughts @Mind Character? "Today with Baker, Derwin, and Zeus Brown we got real football players...with toughness, they're the type of leaders that people gravitate to, and they will make you proud." --- John Dorsey We all know this is exactly what will happen....and the celebration on this board will finally successfully drive me away to much applause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mind Character said: "Today with Baker, Derwin, and Zeus Brown we got real football players...with toughness, their the type of leaders that people gravitate to, and they will make you proud." --- John Dorsey We all know this is exactly what will happen....and the celebration on this board will finally successfully drive me away to much applause. Maybe swap Kizer for Davis Webb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Praying for 1. Sam Darnold QB trade down with the With buffalo for both 1st and 2nd plus 1st next year and LT Cordy Glenn ( their trying to dump him ) 21. Calvin Ridley WR 22. Carlton Davis CB trade back up with two seconds 28. Darius Guice RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: 1. Mayfield 4. Derwin James Trade 33 and 35 to move up for Orlando Brown. Thoughts @Mind Character? I don’t see anyway else to go with Darnold going back to school eh @Mind Character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Maybe swap Kizer for Davis Webb? Facts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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