Nabbs4u Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Gonna use this post for the opportunity to re-post his HS highlights: Grown man amongst Boys, No doubt. 🍺 As a supposed Generational Talent, he's played more like a Boy amongst Men in the NFL then the latter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 13 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Guess I thought he might care a little more about winning at this stage of his career. Why? Not really been on his bingo card for his decade long career. He’s a monetary mercenary and always has been. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Grown man amongst Boys, No doubt. 🍺 As a supposed Generational Talent, he's played more like a Boy amongst Men in the NFL then the latter. Nah, he’s been solid, just never lived up to the hype. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 20 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Grown man amongst Boys, No doubt. 🍺 As a supposed Generational Talent, he's played more like a Boy amongst Men in the NFL then the latter. 'supposed' talent. His entire career is on film, including his combine. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're trying to be a contrarian but lord have mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 7 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: 'supposed' talent. His entire career is on film, including his combine. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're trying to be a contrarian but lord have mercy. Yeah I don’t think you can be a 10 year starter in the league entering your 11th season and “suck”. Would he go 1 overall again? No Would he still be a first round pick? Without a doubt 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Yeah I don’t think you can be a 10 year starter in the league entering your 11th season and “suck”. Would he go 1 overall again? No Would he still be a first round pick? Without a doubt He wouldn't go number 1 overall today because people are much better at sussing out attitude issues than they were 10 years ago. Way too much focus on sports psychology. But he'd be the most physically talented edge prospect of the last decade. Maybe I'm forgetting someone. Montez Sweat and Myles Garratt are the other 2 that come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 18 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: He wouldn't go number 1 overall today because people are much better at sussing out attitude issues than they were 10 years ago. Way too much focus on sports psychology. But he'd be the most physically talented edge prospect of the last decade. Maybe I'm forgetting someone. Montez Sweat and Myles Garratt are the other 2 that come to mind. https://www.draftcountdown.com/historic/the-best-nfl-draft-prospects-on-all-time-historical-grades-by-shane-p-hallam/#edge They would agree with you 1. Mario Williams – 2006 2. Jadeveon Clowney – 2014 3. Will Anderson Jr. 2023 4. Myles Garrett – 2017 5. Von Miller – 2011 6. Chase Young – 2020 7. Joey Bosa – 2016 8. Nick Bosa – 2019 9. Chris Long – 2008 10. Micah Parsons – 2021 11. Khalil Mack – 2014 12. Kayvon Thibodeaux – 2022 13. Leonard Williams – 2015 14. Demarcus Ware – 2005 15. Will Smith – 2004 16. Tyson Jackson – 2009 17. Vernon Gholston – 2008 18. Montez Sweat – 2019 19. Jason Pierre-Paul – 2010 20. Melvin Ingram – 2012 21. Aidan Hutchinson – 2022 22. Aldon Smith – 2011 23. Derek Barnett – 2017 24. Barkevious Mingo – 2013 25. TJ Watt – 2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Sign Dalton Risner as your next trick, Carolina! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 56 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Yeah I don’t think you can be a 10 year starter in the league entering your 11th season and “suck”. Would he go 1 overall again? No Would he still be a first round pick? Without a doubt I never said he sucked I said Quote Credit to him though for making a career and almost $80M out of being barely average. Serviceable. The man has 52 sacks in 10 years. Never had a DBL digit sack season in his career? Not only is he not remotely worthy of all the Generational Hype given, I'd love to know how that's not the definition of Average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: he's played more like a Boy amongst Men in the NFL then the latter I mean…blame your own hyperbole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 18 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Reading this thread got me wondering what I was watching last season. I didn’t think Clowney was that bad at all for Baltimore? Granted he’s on a team with Madubike and Pierce and at times Roquan blitzing, but still, thought he was decent I think that's pretty much the general consensus? Clowney was solid last year. But that's not what people are talking about here. It's the fact that motivation can be an issue, and the likelihood that going to a much weaker organization with far less robust defensive players around him, and a couple years of money in the bank...at home...there's a very significant non-zero chance that he takes it easy and doesn't look nearly as solid as he did in a perfect situation and highly motivated in Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 God I thought Gholston would destroy the NFl. Man his highlights would get me so hyped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 On 3/27/2024 at 8:36 PM, AFlaccoSeagulls said: People are oddly high on Oweh being a dude for some reason. Ojabo is basicaly nothing at this point, dude is not ever going to be healthy. If we don't get KVN back we're kinda screwed at EDGE no matter what we do. Dang I loved Ojabo as a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 3/27/2024 at 7:15 PM, El Ramster said: Throw the whole panthers franchise away. Trash moves 24-7. probably one of the worst team over the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 3/28/2024 at 1:02 PM, Nabbs4u said: Grown man amongst Boys, No doubt. 🍺 As a supposed Generational Talent, he's played more like a Boy amongst Men in the NFL then the latter. I never understood the hype with Clowney. How does Carolina let Burns go then sign Clowney? They aren't getting better doing that are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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