packfanfb Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 42 minutes ago, incognito_man said: you said "I don't know how anyone could watch this and say Johnson gave up a sack here" I don't understand at all. I watched it and it look BEYOND obvious that Johnson gave up a sack there. I'm wondering what context there is that would make someone think Johnson didn't give up a sack? ahh gotcha. Didn't know you were referring to that. Yea, I almost look at it like a situation in baseball when you're deciding whether to give an error to the SS on a grounder in the hole that's a tough play, is it an error or a hit? Or in the football sense, when you send a blitzer and the OL errs in picking him up. I don't really think of it as a player giving up the sack in that instance. Here, I get that Gary was "Johnson's guy" but there was obvious confusion at the LOS, something with the snap was off and Johnson barely even got out of his stance by the time Gary was around the corner. I wouldn't view that as Johnson getting beat and giving up a sack regardless of how you end up scoring it statistically for the defender. There was a gaffe there somewhere. Maybe it was Johnson's fault or maybe something with the snap was off which caused his reaction. If I am being forced to score that play statistically, I probably reward Gary with a sack, but don't penalize Johnson with a sack-against. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 Well, if nothing else, at least the fantasy pundits are confident in Malik... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I just don't understand how anybody can be sure that Malik Willis is terrible. Yeah, he did not look good starting for the Titans but he was a rookie coming from C-USA school. Plus that was also 2 seasons ago and tts not like his preseason performances since then have been awful. The only evidence we have is 3 starts, two seasons ago, and the fact that the Titans let him loose for a 7th (not an organization known for its QB evals) and the media is already dancing on his grave. I find it very bizarre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 27 minutes ago, packfanfb said: ahh gotcha. Didn't know you were referring to that. Yea, I almost look at it like a situation in baseball when you're deciding whether to give an error to the SS on a grounder in the hole that's a tough play, is it an error or a hit? Or in the football sense, when you send a blitzer and the OL errs in picking him up. I don't really think of it as a player giving up the sack in that instance. Here, I get that Gary was "Johnson's guy" but there was obvious confusion at the LOS, something with the snap was off and Johnson barely even got out of his stance by the time Gary was around the corner. I wouldn't view that as Johnson getting beat and giving up a sack regardless of how you end up scoring it statistically for the defender. There was a gaffe there somewhere. Maybe it was Johnson's fault or maybe something with the snap was off which caused his reaction. If I am being forced to score that play statistically, I probably reward Gary with a sack, but don't penalize Johnson with a sack-against. thanks for the context - I genuinely didn't know perhaps that was PFF's reasoning as well, your last sentence. I find that to be a reasonable take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 11 minutes ago, SpeightTheVillain said: I just don't understand how anybody can be sure that Malik Willis is terrible. Yeah, he did not look good starting for the Titans but he was a rookie coming from C-USA school. Plus that was also 2 seasons ago and tts not like his preseason performances since then have been awful. The only evidence we have is 3 starts, two seasons ago, and the fact that the Titans let him loose for a 7th (not an organization known for its QB evals) and the media is already dancing on his grave. I find it very bizarre. the vast majority of people are reactionary. They need to be hammered over the head with facts that support their pre-judged decisions to form a strong opinion. So the vast majority of people aren't going to offer any sort of nuanced take. It's bizarre (but always predictable) that this mindset is ubiquitous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 4 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: I still don't understand why Gary didn't go after the ball on that sack. The ball has was sitting there, just waiting to be stripped. I was thinking the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 30 minutes ago, Leader said: I was thinking the same thing. Yep, gotta take a swat at it on your way there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 14 hours ago, Brit Pack said: Or a highly sensitive wanker You are not wrong sir Brit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 37 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: Yep, gotta take a swat at it on your way there. I think he could have knocked the ball loose also if he'd lowered his shoulder and put it into is side - but - that might have drawn a flag (although legal). As it is - it looks like purposefully tried to avoid a penalty and "jumped" on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) Given Hurts' power and ability to break tackles, were they focused more on "wrapping up" than trying to knock the ball loose? Edited September 12 by Brat&Beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Is MLF messing with all of us? Quote On Thursday, the Packers released a video on their YouTube page where LaFleur mentions that Love’s injury is “more day-to-day than anything.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 3 hours ago, packfanfb said: Well, if nothing else, at least the fantasy pundits are confident in Malik... I made this pickup yesterday. Willis will probably make me pay for it. He does have a history of taking a lot of sacks and has never thrown a TD pass in real NFL game action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 58 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Is MLF messing with all of us? Farve would spend the week in the trainers office, wrap that sh*t up on Sunday morning and get out there on one leg. Different era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Mazrimiv said: Is MLF messing with all of us? Gamesmanship? Keep them guessing until the hour before kickoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Basically a rich mans Richardson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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