incognito_man Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, CWood21 said: And that's my point. Anyone who says they preferred Jared Cook to Martellus Bennett is lying to themselves, or using hindsight to argue otherwise. And even then, the production that Jared Cook had in his first year away from Green Bay was identical to that of Jimmy Graham's last year. And still, after all this wisdom you've shared, it is still obviously a huge mistake that GB didn't make Cook a long-term Packer as was the original statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 17 hours ago, Howler said: He's always had an aversion to throwing in the middle of the field, since he's seemingly obsessed with QBR. What? Joke or serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 22 hours ago, {Family Ghost} said: A saw some cut-ups somewhere that showed he had some open receivers, but didn't pull the trigger and took sacks. On one he had both Graham and MVS open and held the ball and took a sack. Both guys seemed to have plenty of room to work with had their received the football. Rodgers was cautious and indecisive at times in my opinion. Do you have links to cut-ups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Donzo said: Do you have links to cut-ups? It was posted two pages back .. it was from a Leroy Butler segment at packersnews.com. Edited September 13, 2019 by {Family Ghost} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 17 hours ago, Leader said: Tom Silverstein: WR Donald Driver, TE Keith Jackson, S LeRoy Butler, K Ryan Longwell and S Nick Collins are long-time Packers who are on the initial modern era nominee list for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Driver doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Leroy Butler does. Nick Collins does, and Collins would have been first ballot if he hadn't suffered the injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Driver doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Leroy Butler does. Nick Collins does, and Collins would have been first ballot if he hadn't suffered the injury. Can't see Collins getting a serious look. Career was too short. Agree talent wise he fits but longevity is part of being a HOFer. Unfortunate injury derailed a HOF career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Driver doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Leroy Butler does. Nick Collins does, and Collins would have been first ballot if he hadn't suffered the injury. 10 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Can't see Collins getting a serious look. Career was too short. Agree talent wise he fits but longevity is part of being a HOFer. Unfortunate injury derailed a HOF career. Yeah I agree. No way Collins even sniffs it due to the injury. That whole deal was devastating for him and the Packers trajectory/ super bowl window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Driver doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Leroy Butler does. Nick Collins does, and Collins would have been first ballot if he hadn't suffered the injury. Agree about Driver and Butler. Not sure about Collins, but will take your word for it cause I dont have a feel for his career in a HOF context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Leader said: Agree about Driver and Butler. Not sure about Collins, but will take your word for it cause I dont have a feel for his career in a HOF context. You don't have a feel for his career in a HOF context? No offense, but how in the hell not? He had 21 interceptions, 6 forced fumbles and 4 touchdowns in six full seasons. In 2008 he had 7 interceptions and 295 INT return yards. He had a pick six in a Super Bowl that led to a 6 point win for the Packers. For a modern day comparison, Earl Thomas has 21 interceptions, 9 forced fumbles and 1 touchdown in his first 6 seasons. It was Charles Woodson and Nick Collins that quarterbacks feared most on our defense. Nick Collins was absolutely heading towards a Hall of Fame career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: You don't have a feel for his career in a HOF context? No offense, but how in the hell not? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........because I dont?LOL. Whats difficult to understand about that. I've not considered his career. Outside of his SB interception, I cant recall a highlight - but thats on me - not him - hence, I'm not offering an opinion about him regards the HOF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: You don't have a feel for his career in a HOF context? No offense, but how in the hell not? He had 21 interceptions, 6 forced fumbles and 4 touchdowns in six full seasons. In 2008 he had 7 interceptions and 295 INT return yards. He had a pick six in a Super Bowl that led to a 6 point win for the Packers. For a modern day comparison, Earl Thomas has 21 interceptions, 9 forced fumbles and 1 touchdown in his first 6 seasons. It was Charles Woodson and Nick Collins that quarterbacks feared most on our defense. Nick Collins was absolutely heading towards a Hall of Fame career. If Earl Thomas retired after 6 seasons he wouldn't have made it either, as you know. Nick Collins was my favourite player, but he won't make the NFL HOF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, JBURGE said: If Earl Thomas retired after 6 seasons he wouldn't have made it either, as you know. Nick Collins was my favourite player, but he won't make the NFL HOF. Agreed but looking at the current list of possible inductees there could be a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 "Nick Collins was absolutely heading towards a Hall of Fame career"- This I agree with but the idea that because he had a great start that was cut short by injury he somehow still deserves to be in the Hall is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kepler said: Agreed but looking at the current list of possible inductees there could be a chance. Maybe I am missing something are you insinuating that some of these guys are going to get in even though they seem to be less qualified simply due to the weak class? Why would they just not vote them in since they do not qualify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Nick Collins will get the Sterling Sharpe treatment .. no hall of a fame. Both were on a hall of fame trajectory before injury cut their careers short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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