spilltray Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 It's a different kind of complicated. Pettine will use more formations but it seems like Capers d had many more checks and reads. It sounds like we will see multiple base and sub package formations, 3-4, 4-3, 46, ect,and the playbook will be thick but execution more simple on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, chillparsi1 said: If I recall correctly, when we were under Dom you were pretty opposed to us drafting a true nose or another DL since we were nickel so much. Do you still think that under Pettine a Vea/Wilkins/Payne - who could all be solid value plays at 14 from what I've read - would be a waste? Assuming the EDGES are "Meh" at the slot, I would be excited about having another hoss next to Clark/Daniels but not sure how much we'd actually get all 3 in. Pettine averaged 4.77 DBs per snap with the Bills back in the day. That's likely going to be higher here as more receivers are seeing the field in 2018. If you're looking for a DL to play, you need another pressure guy. Our pressure package is brutal right now. Perry-Daniels-Lowry-Matthews-Fackrell-----Projectile Vomits everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillparsi1 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Pettine averaged 4.77 DBs per snap with the Bills back in the day. That's likely going to be higher here as more receivers are seeing the field in 2018. If you're looking for a DL to play, you need another pressure guy. Our pressure package is brutal right now. Perry-Daniels-Lowry-Matthews-Fackrell-----Projectile Vomits everywhere. So if I'm reading between the lines correctly, it's not that it's DL that you're against. You just dont think the trio I listed are capable? I figured Vea and Payne, wasnt sure abt Wilkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, chillparsi1 said: So if I'm reading between the lines correctly, it's not that it's DL that you're against. You just dont think the trio I listed are capable? I figured Vea and Payne, wasnt sure abt Wilkins. I'm against any front group player that isn't a pass rusher. That can be an Edge guy, an Interior Defensive Lineman who can win inside, or even an Inside Linebacker that can blitz at an extremely high level. We've got enough guys who muddle at the line of scrimmage and then disengage. We need up field players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 http://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/11/packers-add-giants-assistant-coach-patrick-graham-to-defensive-staff/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 hours ago, deltarich87 said: Thank you Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 You boys got off lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 You boys got off lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Vince Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Chili said: LOL what's the deal with this guy? What did he do so bad over there they finished strong once Jimmy got acclimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Vince Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Well looks like Fangio is waiting for the Vikings to get eliminated so he can join Pat Shurmur in Arizona. Guess Mac wanted Pettine more. http://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/12/cardinals-could-end-up-with-vic-fangio-as-dc-if-pat-shurmur-is-coach/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Just now, St Vince said: Well looks like Fangio is waiting for the Vikings to get eliminated so he can join Pat Shurmur in Arizona. Guess Mac wanted Pettine more. http://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/12/cardinals-could-end-up-with-vic-fangio-as-dc-if-pat-shurmur-is-coach/ It's going to be fun to watch the Vikings again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, St Vince said: LOL what's the deal with this guy? What did he do so bad over there they finished strong once Jimmy got acclimated. First of all he has been unemployed for two years. Secondly he has a huge credibility problem. As defensive coordinator he lost the dressing room at both 49ers and Browns. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Thankfully we passed on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I'm against any front group player that isn't a pass rusher. That can be an Edge guy, an Interior Defensive Lineman who can win inside, or even an Inside Linebacker that can blitz at an extremely high level. We've got enough guys who muddle at the line of scrimmage and then disengage. We need up field players. This all day long. I am not opposed to finding two pass rushers in this draft, even if it's in round 1 and 2. Yes, I know there are other needs but you have to be able to get to the QB. The dream would be for Chubb to fall to us, I know, not going to happen. He could play outside on run down and whip guys inside in passing situation. Find another edge rusher in round 2, even if that is all the kid can do initially and we're in good shape heading into next year. I think if you don't go CB you can get guys later but might need to grab one in free agency. Love to snag the kid from the Bears, Fuller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Golfman said: This all day long. I am not opposed to finding two pass rushers in this draft, even if it's in round 1 and 2. Yes, I know there are other needs but you have to be able to get to the QB. The dream would be for Chubb to fall to us, I know, not going to happen. He could play outside on run down and whip guys inside in passing situation. Find another edge rusher in round 2, even if that is all the kid can do initially and we're in good shape heading into next year. I think if you don't go CB you can get guys later but might need to grab one in free agency. Love to snag the kid from the Bears, Fuller. To me finding pass rushers is the #1 need on defense right now. I'm tired of watching this defense allow mediocre QBs to look like HOFs. When you can't rush the passer I don't care who you have in your secondary. Nobody can cover a WR forever. I dreaded it when it was 3rd and long because most of the time we couldn't stop 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, St Vince said: Well looks like Fangio is waiting for the Vikings to get eliminated so he can join Pat Shurmur in Arizona. Guess Mac wanted Pettine more. http://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/12/cardinals-could-end-up-with-vic-fangio-as-dc-if-pat-shurmur-is-coach/ That would be an acceptable drain of coaching talent from NFC North opponents for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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