AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, N4L said: Wilson is not great within the pocket. He's too short to see open guys and isn't as good at manipulating throwing lanes to make plays in the pocket. His stats in the pocket are pretty pedestrian. I'm too lazy to find them but maybe someone else will post them. The past on the first page of this thread with the fan crying will be freaking hilarious if they hire cable as their oc http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/25929/russell-wilson-has-been-nfls-top-statistical-qb-when-not-under-siege From 2012-2016, Russell Wilson was #1 in DVOA when not pressured: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/quarterbacks-and-pressure-2016 http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/17169/five-numbers-behind-russell-wilsons-historic-season TL;DR --> His stats from the pocket are among the league's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, HorizontoZenith said: Another example of fans overrating a QB. Wilson's own teammates think it's Wilson more than it was Bevel. Wilson is not the Superman people suggest he is. I don't follow the Seahawks very closely, but, from what I've seen of him, Wilson looks pretty darn good. Bevel, on the other hand, was the definition of mediocre when he was with the Vikings. For that reason, it doesn't surprise me to see he just got fired from another team. IMO, Wilson is a much better QB than Bevel is an OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, 49erurtaza said: That might be the best hire they can do. Anything but Cable. In what world has Cable earned to be OC. Didn't the Lions fire Lombardi for being horrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Darth Pees said: Now there's a twist, because if there's anyone who has been worse at his job than Bevell, it's been Tom Cable. Doppelgangers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Didn't the Lions fire Lombardi for being horrible? http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/13979338/detroit-lions-fire-offensive-coordinator-joe-lombardi-two-ol-coaches Yep. He was the guy who introduced the world to Jim Bob Cooter after he was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Punch Man Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, 49erurtaza said: Oh. My. God. No. Just bring Bevell back. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: Are you that Ravens fan who's actually a Seahawks fan from the old forum? I forgot the name. Wasn't that SnA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Future Falcons QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I would say good decision to fire but with Sark and Cable being mentioned as candidates to replace him....yikes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: I would say good decision to fire but with Sark and Cable being mentioned as candidates to replace him....yikes... Sark is already a no via Dan Quinn. Cable is the only guy left and there's already lots of talk of him being on the way out, too. If they replace Bevell with Cable...phew.....what a horrible decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Tom Cable has received permission to join Jon Gruden's staff in Oakland. As far as Bevell being fired, I'm perfectly okay with it. The Seahawks need a fresh offensive perspective and Bevell's play calling was questionable at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, showtime said: Tom Cable has received permission to join Jon Gruden's staff in Oakland. As far as Bevell being fired, I'm perfectly okay with it. The Seahawks need a fresh offensive perspective and Bevell's play calling was questionable at times. I don't think the offense is going to change that dramatically under a different OC. Wilson is still going to scramble and try to play off structure. It's just how he is as a QB, and what makes him so hard to play for and against. His height is definitely a disadvantage inside the pocket, unless he learns to somehow be more like Drew Brees in terms of pocket presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 53 minutes ago, showtime said: Tom Cable has received permission to join Jon Gruden's staff in Oakland. As far as Bevell being fired, I'm perfectly okay with it. The Seahawks need a fresh offensive perspective and Bevell's play calling was questionable at times. DO NOT WANT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber11 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: DO NOT WANT. I know you guys also have interviewed Harold Goodwin for your OL coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Darth Pees said: http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/25929/russell-wilson-has-been-nfls-top-statistical-qb-when-not-under-siege From 2012-2016, Russell Wilson was #1 in DVOA when not pressured: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/quarterbacks-and-pressure-2016 http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/17169/five-numbers-behind-russell-wilsons-historic-season TL;DR --> His stats from the pocket are among the league's best. The first two links you are posting are 'when not pressured' which is not 'inside the pocket' The last link is an article from after the 2015 season. Is this really the best you can do to show that Wilson is a good pocket passer? I know I didn't exactly make a case as to why he isnt a good pocket passer other than stating the issue that his height creates in seeing passing lanes, but its been known for a few years that the way you try to beat wilson is to keep him in the pocket. Your rushers cant get too far upfield. Ive seen film reviews where he has guys open but he cant see them because there are lineman in the way. TLDR you still havent proven anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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