The Helicopter Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 3 hours ago, broncos67 said: I would take Bridgewater and then I would draft a QB alongside him. Bridgewater is the highest risk, but also the highest reward. Worst case, you let him walk and get a great comp pick and turn to the younger drafted QB. Keenum played well, but I prefer to look at his overall body of work, and there's certainly questions there. Bradford is a walking injury and I wouldn't trust him to stay healthy. I like this - highest reward scenario. Why sign a stop gap when we could get more; an envious and lucrative predicament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 13 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: Let's say Cousins isn't an option: Sam Bradford Case Keenum Teddy Bridgewater Who do you take and why? None of them. Kirk Cousins is Plan A. If Plan A doesn't work out, I roll the dice on one of the rookies with the No. 5 overall pick and start him from day one. No more this sign a journeyman, draft a rookie, let him develop and start him down the road. We tried that and all it did was cost us two years of our elite defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolly red giant Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 4 hours ago, AnAngryAmerican said: None of them. Kirk Cousins is Plan A. If Plan A doesn't work out, I roll the dice on one of the rookies with the No. 5 overall pick and start him from day one. No more this sign a journeyman, draft a rookie, let him develop and start him down the road. We tried that and all it did was cost us two years of our elite defense. Its either plan A or start the rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeDefense Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I saw MIA RT James may be cut, I’d hope Elway would cut ties with Watson and Stephenson and get James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Since I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, I wanted to point out that Elway squashed some rumors in his combine press conference yesterday, saying that DeMaryius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders and Derek Wolfe will all return next year. Of those three, the only one I thought had even a chance to be moved was Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncos67 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, AnAngryAmerican said: Since I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, I wanted to point out that Elway squashed some rumors in his combine press conference yesterday, saying that DeMaryius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders and Derek Wolfe will all return next year. Of those three, the only one I thought had even a chance to be moved was Sanders. Saw this too. Not surprised ultimately on the receivers. They'd have a really hard time selling Cousins on coming if they dumped one or both of these guys. I do think WR is going to be an early pick for us though. Writing is on the wall with both DT and ES- getting up there in age, contract length, etc... Wolfe I wouldn't have been totally shocked if they moved from, but I think they have nothing to lose seeing how he recovers. If he retires because of the injury, the salary comes off the books. If he comes back healthy, he's still a valuable asset. No lose situation. From what Elway DIDN'T say- I have a feeling this is the end of: Talib, Anderson, Watson, Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I guess why I'm not on the same page with respected members of this forum on the qb situation is because I'm looking at it through Elways eyes and Ellis. While Kirk Cousins being signed here would rejuvenate this fan base very quickly I just feel as though Elway knows it would come with absurd expectations. If Elway was 80% confident of winning a title with manning my guess is he's at 50% with Cousins. Is the risk worth the reward? Now if our primary focus was on a qb in the draft then there's something there. There's maybe 3 or 4 guys in the draft that are polarizing, will rejuvenate the fan base, and you can win games with. Are they Championship qbs we can't say yet just like we can't say that about a 29 year old Kirk Cousins. What you're hearing now from Elway and Vance is them prepping you for the pick. Talking about how rpos are changing the way a prostyle offense will be viewed. How Elway knows the prostyle offense is changing. 60% of the snaps in todays nfl are out of the shotgun. That's alarming. He's preparing us for Baker Mayfield or Lamar Jackson. Two polarizing players with electric traits. Mayfield is mobile and called a gun slinger. I don't get gunslinger considering his low # of ints. Jackson is the most electric player since Mike Vick. Hes taller with a generational arm. I think we can win with both and they won't come with title aspirations year one. All I heard yesterday was Elway was open to everything at qb so we have to look at the little things he says that point to a drafted qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, broncos67 said: Wolfe I wouldn't have been totally shocked if they moved from, but I think they have nothing to lose seeing how he recovers. If he retires because of the injury, the salary comes off the books. If he comes back healthy, he's still a valuable asset. No lose situation. Agreed here. I also think Derek Wolfe is the very embodiment of what they want their players to be. He's crucial to the locker room culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I heard a good point about Cousins. If he goes to the Vikings, there will be Super Bowl expectations. If he gets sold on what the Broncos have going on....they are coming off a terrible season. Might be more appealing to not have the ridiculously high expectations, even though of course our fan base is ridiculous....but he might not know that lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: Agreed here. I also think Derek Wolfe is the very embodiment of what they want their players to be. He's crucial to the locker room culture. I mean, he's not exactly a model citizen but I think he's super key to our defense personality wise. At least when we were good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 edit: double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, champ11 said: I mean, he's not exactly a model citizen but I think he's super key to our defense personality wise. At least when we were good What do you mean he's not model citizen? He's never been arrested for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: What do you mean he's not model citizen? He's never been arrested for anything. should have said employee rather than citizen. referring to the illegal substance stuff. i'd assume he's pretty deep into that, but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 49 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: Agreed here. I also think Derek Wolfe is the very embodiment of what they want their players to be. He's crucial to the locker room culture. But at what point is his salary guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, champ11 said: I heard a good point about Cousins. If he goes to the Vikings, there will be Super Bowl expectations. If he gets sold on what the Broncos have going on....they are coming off a terrible season. Might be more appealing to not have the ridiculously high expectations, even though of course our fan base is ridiculous....but he might not know that lol. See I think the expectations would ve crazy thanks to PM the fans see 4 division titles 2 superbowl appearances and a ship and expects that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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