RpMc Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Physical stature be damned, I want Hunter Renfrow on my team. The dude just makes plays. Would, at the very least, be a good chain mover and replacement punt returner for the ever more expensive Marcus Sherels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, RpMc said: Would, at the very least, be a good chain mover and replacement punt returner for the ever more expensive Marcus Sherels Every year fans call for Sherels’ head. Every year he proves to be better than those fans want to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: Every year fans call for Sherels’ head. Every year he proves to be better than those fans want to replace him. We are a cap team now; can’t afford to be paying a pure special teamer what Marcus has been making; I’m, also, certainly not calling for his head. He’s a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 hours ago, KeithVikings28 said: We need to draft CB/S Iman Marshall from USC. This guy impresses me the more and more I watch him. Rhodes, Waynes, Hughes, Alexander and Hill. Sure depending on what we do with Sherels maybe and more importantly the long term health of Rhodes and what they plan with Waynes... But corner is not exactly a position of need I feel, and Marshall will be a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Especially with how Hill played last year corner is pretty ok for the team if they are all healthy, heck Rhodes, Waynes and Hughes were out at some points and they were still ok at the corner spot some how. Especially with Kearse filling it at times in the nickle as well and Hughes is a damn stud and a half I feel, or will be. 2 hours ago, wcblack34 said: Every year fans call for Sherels’ head. Every year he proves to be better than those fans want to replace him. True but honestly as a nickle corner or corner in general he is not very functional. Great special teams guy and good enough as a return man but nothing amazing, he will catch it and not fumble and might break some returns so he is kept around. But in terms of coverage skills and playing defense he can do only a little bit I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I could see Sherels having a harder time making the team due to having a new ST coach. I personally think it's time to move on and start using that roster spot more effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 4 hours ago, RpMc said: can’t afford to be paying a pure special teamer what Marcus has been making He made $1.4M last year. That is approaching veteran minimum. If a low salary like that is a problem something else is wrong on the team. 2 hours ago, Ozzy said: as a nickle corner or corner in general he is not very functional Not at all. He is not being paid to be a nickel corner. He has been a specialist only for some years. He shouldn't be considered anywhere on the CB depth chart. They list him there but it has been years since there has been any thought of him being even a developmental CB. He is, and has been for some time, a special team player. It is great that he takes some practice at a position so he won't be completely lost if the team encounters an emergency and he needs to play CB. He is no more a CB though, IMO, than Kevin McDermott is a center. 2 hours ago, Ozzy said: he will catch it and not fumble and might break some returns so he is kept around That is severely understating what he does for the team. He does so much more than return punts. He is a great player to have on the team. 1 hour ago, vikingsrule said: I could see Sherels having a harder time making the team due to having a new ST coach. This I completely agree with. With a new special teams coach I could see Sherels playing for another team this year. If he wants to play I would bet he'll get a job on some team in the league this year. If the Vikings want him I think that he would sign with them before exploring other options. He's been in MN his whole life. With the new special teams coach, this is the first year since he solidified his spot on the team that I feel like the people that annually project he doesn't make the 53 man roster may end up being correct. Of course, predicting that enough years in a row will eventually result in being right one year. Most of their success percentages on that projection are embarrassingly low however. I wouldn't bet against Sherels making the Vikings roster again but it is possible they don't even sign him to the 90 man roster and he signs somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: He made $1.4M last year. That is approaching veteran minimum. If a low salary like that is a problem something else is wrong on the team. . Every penny counts when you’re a cap team, with multiple, starting caliber, holes to fill and some players due big contracts coming up. Now if he just wants to stick around on a vet MSB, I’m all for it because, assuming he gets a max bonus with it, that’s roughly $700k less of a cap hit than last year. This all could be rendered moot by other moves, or not resigning some players, but cap teams have to make cap savings moves and not paying a pure special teamer anything more than the vet minimum is an easy cost cut. It’s like the Wild spending million+ dollar contracts on third and fourth liners under the previous regime. An uneccesary expenditure that doesn’t really help the team more than a replacement, minimum salary, player would. I enjoy what Sherels has brought to the team, and if he takes a MSB, i’d lock him into the 53 man right now.... otherwise, if he can find himself a better deal somewhere else, I let him take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 10 hours ago, vikingsrule said: I could see Sherels having a harder time making the team due to having a new ST coach. I personally think it's time to move on and start using that roster spot more effectively. It's the last CB spot. They don't see the field enough to justify moving on from one of the better returners in the league. If you're down to your last CB, you're probably screwed anyway. I don't see a more effective way to use the final CB spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikestyle Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 15 hours ago, RpMc said: Would, at the very least, be a good chain mover and replacement punt returner for the ever more expensive Marcus Sherels I could have too high of hopes, but couldn't Chad Beebe be this guy? He made some plays when he was healthy/on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Being a cap team sure is something to think about. We may only have a small window to work with, so we'll need to take some chances and go with cheaper options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, wcblack34 said: It's the last CB spot. They don't see the field enough to justify moving on from one of the better returners in the league. If you're down to your last CB, you're probably screwed anyway. I don't see a more effective way to use the final CB spot. Last year, there were chances for Sherels to play with all the injuries. Usually you want those last positional spots to be devoted to cheap developmental players, not 30 year old veterans who have no business playing CB. If Newman doesn't retire, Holton Hill may not be on the team because of the desire to keep Sherels around as CB6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDakViking Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Really interested in Khalen Saunders after this week. Quite athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakout Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 A healthy Mike Hughes can handle the PR / KR duties. Especially if Alexander beats him out for the nickel spot making him 4th on the depth chart or you could argue 5th behind Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 For Funsies. The Vikings trade Xavier Rhodes to the Kansas City Chiefs for DeMarcus Robinson and pick 1.29. The Vikings trade Laquan Treadwell to whomever will take him for a 2020 7th round pick. 1.18 - Dalton Risner [RG] Kansas State 1.29 - TJ Hockensen [TE] Iowa Vikings trade their 2nd and 4th round picks to Tampa Bay (might have to give more) to get up in front of Buffalo. 2.39 - Garrett Bradbury [C] NC State 3.81 - Khalen Saunders [DT] Western Illinois ——— Doesn’t matter what happens after that. LT - Riley Reiff LG - Pat Elflein C - Garrett Bradbury RG - Dalton Risner RT - Brian O’Neill Ride and die with the yutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 8:34 PM, vikingsrule said: I don't think we have enough draft capital to trade up this year. I wouldn't do it for a non QB. I wouldn't either, I'm just saying it potentially might be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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