Broncofan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Why would they get rid of Darby? He's not part of the new regime, maybe doesn't fit the scheme that the new HC has in mind. More likely, the GM did the Darby deal to get Watkins' replacement, where he wanted to get cheaper, and younger, and more picks. To be honest, BUF needed this - they have 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and 2 3rds next year. And they unloaded $, and don't have the headache of what to do with Watkins extension wise (the scariest decision around, given his injury risk). I don't think the Darby deal happens without unloading Sammy first. But once it, did, this made a lot more sense. Gaines may not replace Darby, or even come close, but J-Matt is a lot cheaper, and likely cheaper to extend, and they got 2 more Day 2 picks. I can totally see why they did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Broncofan said: He's not part of the new regime, maybe doesn't fit the scheme that the new HC has in mind. More likely, the GM did the Darby deal to get Watkins' replacement, where he wanted to get cheaper, and younger, and more picks. To be honest, BUF needed this - they have 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and 2 3rds next year. And they unloaded $, and don't have the headache of what to do with Watkins extension wise (the scariest decision around, given his injury risk). I don't think the Darby deal happens without unloading Sammy first. But once it, did, this made a lot more sense. Gaines may not replace Darby, or even come close, but J-Matt is a lot cheaper, and likely cheaper to extend, and they got 2 more Day 2 picks. I can totally see why they did this. But Watkins is a year younger than Jordan Matthews..... and Darby is two years younger than Gaines. They got cheaper and more picks sure. But definitely also got older with less potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Long Shot Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm not sure if these trades are implying that Buffalo is gearing hard for a playoff run in the next year or two or not. They're certainly focusing more on current production than on potential, if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: But Watkins is a year younger than Jordan Matthews..... and Darby is two years younger than Gaines. They got cheaper and more picks sure. But definitely also got older with less potential. The picks though make them younger and cheaper overall in the long term given Day 2 picks are locks to make the team. They were in the 20's rank-wise in team age last year IIRC. 6 picks in the first 3 rounds has a huge impact on turning over the roster age wise and improving cap health. Which BUF needs realistically they aren't contenders this year. The fact they don't have to spend as much to keep Matthews nor commit as much guaranteed $ vs. the risk Sammy carries this makes it a no brainer IMO. Dont get me wrong I like Darby a lot but the Watkins deal drives this deal. Without it I don't like it. With it I see the reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This is worse than the Watkins trade. I really really like Darby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, EliteTexan80 said: It's Darby that I'm thinking. This time last season he was seen as a guy about to break into the top 10 discussion. Giving up on him this early? Darby is a solid player but I don't think he was quite close to top 10. I heard he might not be a fit for that defense so idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, ttitansfan4life said: Darby is a solid player but I don't think he was quite close to top 10. I heard he might not be a fit for that defense so idk. Yeah - the more I hear it, the more it seems like he was a man cover guy in a heavy zone scheme. Might as well get something out of him in that sense, and Matthews + 3rd isn't TOO bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, deltarich87 said: Firesale in Buffalo Can we have Shady back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 42 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Didn't he have a lingering hamstring issue the entire year last season? Really liked him coming out and thought the Bills got an absolute steal in the 2nd round. Shocked they're giving up on him.... I dont think we are giving up on him. Im sure we still liked him. But when we added Gaines that made him expandle to find a replacement for Sammy. Individually both the trades make little sense. But together you can see we added high draft picks by taking slight downgrades for this year. Plus we know Matthews can play an entire year unlike Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Can we have Shady back? QFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, Hockey5djh said: 12 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Can we have Shady back? QFT. Don't like Blount??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: Don't like Blount??????????? Meh, He was the best available on the market but he's not Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: 3 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said: 15 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Can we have Shady back? QFT. Don't like Blount??????????? He ain't Shady man...need that shiftiness back in my life in a non-tiny person (no disrespect Sprolesy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 @Kiltman @Hockey5djh He certainly is no Shady. Rooting for Blount is a strange thing, 75% of the time you are frustrated and want him off the field and then 25% of the time he does something extremely good and you reset your frustration level for that next 75% lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think the Bills won this trade. Watkins and Darby are both overrated and really Matthews and Gaines are not that much of a down grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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