game3525 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 lol SImms tries way to hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Spartacus said: There is only one thing one can do with a list like this. Post GIFs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I think I just sustained a TBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Spartacus said: There is only one thing one can do with a list like this. Post GIFs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyToThump Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 11 hours ago, BayRaider said: At least he got Aaron Rodgers right. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatechpc Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 16 hours ago, turtle28 said: I can't stand Tom Brady or the Patriots and am rooting hard for an epic nose-dive for them this year, but I can't take any ranking of the current starting QB's in the league that DOESN'T have Brady at #1 seriously. Then you got Russell Wilson at #2 (ahead of Brady) which is just silly, then Stafford at #4 which is idiotic. Wentz has had one great (albeit incomplete) season and he's somehow 5th, while Watson (who I really like, btw) is at 8th after just 7 games in the NFL? I don't care how great any of the second or third year QB's have looked so far in their young careers, none of them has done enough IMO to be ranked so highly overall just because the sample size is so small. Guys like Wentz, Goff, Prescott, Watson, Garappolo, etc are really exciting young players but they simply haven't done enough in this league to eclipse guys like Drew Brees, Big Ben, Matt Ryan, etc. Their time will come, but not yet (hell, I don't even think guys like Winston and Mariota have played enough to really make concrete judgments about their overall ranking). Here is my own personal list of the 32 starting QBs this year (note that I ranked all the rookies at the bottom but that doesn't mean I don't think they will be good): 1 - Tom Brady 2 - Aaron Rodgers 3 - Drew Brees 4 - Ben Roethlisberger 5 - Russell Wilson 6 - Matt Ryan 7 - Andrew Luck (if healthy) 8 - Philip Rivers 9 - Matthew Stafford 10 - Carson Wentz 11 - Cam Newton 12 - Jared Goff 13 - Kirk Cousins 14 - Alex Smith 15 - Derek Carr 16 - Deshaun Watson 17 - Jimmy Garappolo 18 - Eli Manning 19 - Sam Bradford (if healthy) 20 - Dak Prescott 21- Marcus Mariota 22 - Joe Flacco 23 - Tyrod Taylor 24 - Case Keenum 25 - Mitch Trubisky 26 - Andy Dalton 27 - Blake Bortles 28 - Ryan Tannehill 29 - Jameis Winston 30 - Pat Mahomes 31 - Sam Darnold 32 - Josh Allen Incidentally, ranking all 32 QBs is a lot harder than I thought it would be and I'm sure there will be a lot of hate for my list as well, but I think its a hell of a lot more sane than Chris Simms' silly list. Try ranking all 32 yourself and you'll see what I mean about how hard it is to figure out where everybody should go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 hours ago, game3525 said: lol SImms tries way to hard. Guess the apple doesn't fall far from the clueless douchebag tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 hours ago, megatechpc said: I can't stand Tom Brady or the Patriots and am rooting hard for an epic nose-dive for them this year, but I can't take any ranking of the current starting QB's in the league that DOESN'T have Brady at #1 seriously. Then you got Russell Wilson at #2 (ahead of Brady) which is just silly, then Stafford at #4 which is idiotic. Wentz has had one great (albeit incomplete) season and he's somehow 5th, while Watson (who I really like, btw) is at 8th after just 7 games in the NFL? I don't care how great any of the second or third year QB's have looked so far in their young careers, none of them has done enough IMO to be ranked so highly overall just because the sample size is so small. Guys like Wentz, Goff, Prescott, Watson, Garappolo, etc are really exciting young players but they simply haven't done enough in this league to eclipse guys like Drew Brees, Big Ben, Matt Ryan, etc. Their time will come, but not yet (hell, I don't even think guys like Winston and Mariota have played enough to really make concrete judgments about their overall ranking). Here is my own personal list of the 32 starting QBs this year (note that I ranked all the rookies at the bottom but that doesn't mean I don't think they will be good): 1 - Tom Brady 2 - Aaron Rodgers 3 - Drew Brees 4 - Ben Roethlisberger 5 - Russell Wilson 6 - Matt Ryan 7 - Andrew Luck (if healthy) 8 - Philip Rivers 9 - Matthew Stafford 10 - Carson Wentz 11 - Cam Newton 12 - Jared Goff 13 - Kirk Cousins 14 - Alex Smith 15 - Derek Carr 16 - Deshaun Watson 17 - Jimmy Garappolo 18 - Eli Manning 19 - Sam Bradford (if healthy) 20 - Dak Prescott 21- Marcus Mariota 22 - Joe Flacco 23 - Tyrod Taylor 24 - Case Keenum 25 - Mitch Trubisky 26 - Andy Dalton 27 - Blake Bortles 28 - Ryan Tannehill 29 - Jameis Winston 30 - Pat Mahomes 31 - Sam Darnold 32 - Josh Allen Incidentally, ranking all 32 QBs is a lot harder than I thought it would be and I'm sure there will be a lot of hate for my list as well, but I think its a hell of a lot more sane than Chris Simms' silly list. Try ranking all 32 yourself and you'll see what I mean about how hard it is to figure out where everybody should go... I think you have Luck too high, he should be around where you have Eli and Bradford because Luck has to prove just as much as Wentz and Watson coming off his major shoulder surgery. I’d also have Kenum and Dalton higher,. Dalton is an average starter. It boggles my mind how he gets sold short show much but he generally puts up average numbers. I guess I should do my own, good suggestion: 1.Tom Brady 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Drew Brees 4. Ben Roethlisberger 5. Russell Wilson 6. Philip Rivers 7. Matt Ryan 8. Matthew Stafford 9. Cam Newton 10. Jared Goff 11. Kirk Cousins 12. Alex Smith 13. Derek Carr 14. Eli Manning 15. Case Kenum 16. Sam Bradford 17. Andy Dalton 18. Joe Flacco 19. Jimmy Garappolo 20. Dak Prescott This is where I put the QBs returning from major injury who have a lot to prove. An ACL and major shoulder surgery will take time to overcome, it has for all QBs, even the great ones. I think they’ll all be inconsistent to start the year but have good second halves of the year but still, I don’t see Luck, Watson or Wentz putting up top 10 numbers this year. 21. Andrew Luck 22. Carson Wentz 23. DeShaun Watson 24. Ryan Tannehill 25. Tyrod Taylor 26. Blake Bortles 27. Marcus Mariota 28. Mitch Trubisky 29. Jameis Winston 30. Pat Mahomes 31. Sam Darnold 32. Josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 17 hours ago, Spartacus said: There is only one thing one can do with a list like this. Post GIFs The best thing of about this GIF (and why it’s my favorite of all time)...isnt just because “Jaguar guy”. You can see each fans’ response. You have the two on the top...one says “they don’t know what the ___ that they’re doing while hand talking, and his buddy says “man” while sighing. The guy that looks like The Rock in the bottom right looks like he wants to kill someone. The guy right next to him that looks like Reek on GoT can only chuckle. The guy in the bottom left gestures to the field and rubs his head. The gray haired gentleman immediately to the left of “Jaguar guy” quietly says “that’s ballgame” while shaking his head. It’s a perfectly captured 5 second clip of emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I prefer to rank QBs by tier: Elite Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers Drew BreesGreat Ben Roethlisberger Carson Wentz Matt Ryan Philip Rivers Russell WilsonGood Andrew Luck Cam Newton Dak Prescott Kirk Cousins Matt StaffordAverage Alex Smith Andy Dalton Blake Bortles Derek Carr Jameis Winston Joe Flacco Ryan Tannehill Tyrod TaylorUnknown Case Keenum Deshaun Watson Jared Goff Jimmy Garappolo Josh Allen Josh Rosen Marcus Mariota Mitch Trubisky Patrick Mahomes Sam DarnoldCrap Eli Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 22 hours ago, Danger said: lol just the Skip Bayless formula. If Simms was following Clueless' formula Rodgers wouldn't be in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just out of interest; people seem to penalise players that were injured most of the season in their player rankings (for example Watt is no longer considered the best defender, Wentz has been downgraded in a lot of these because coming off ACL tear). Never seems to upset Rodgers' position on these lists. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: Just out of interest; people seem to penalise players that were injured most of the season in their player rankings (for example Watt is no longer considered the best defender, Wentz has been downgraded in a lot of these because coming off ACL tear). Never seems to upset Rodgers' position on these lists. Why not? Perhaps it is because of the nature of Rodgers' injury? Rodgers came back from his last broken collarbone with a vengeance. Wentz is a young QB without the resume of Arod's. Having a serious leg injury can be a bigger injury for Watt. Plus he had a back injury the year before. I am a big JJ fan and I hope he is back as good as new in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: Just out of interest; people seem to penalise players that were injured most of the season in their player rankings (for example Watt is no longer considered the best defender, Wentz has been downgraded in a lot of these because coming off ACL tear). Never seems to upset Rodgers' position on these lists. Why not? The situations aren’t comparable whatsoever. Watt: Nobody really started questioning his ranking until he missed a 2nd consecutive season. Rodgers by comparison only missed about half. Wentz: Wentz only has about 3/4ths worth of MVP play. Rodgers has a baller for almost a decade now. Now if Rodgers had missed 2 straight seasons or was a 24 year old with a limited body of work, he probably would have his elite status question but alas. He only missed about half, more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I respect anyone who puts together a list like this but Watson's not better than Luck, Ryan or Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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