Wideouts: Panic or Perseverance - What to do? [Update: Jordan Matthews Returns]

[EaglesPeteC]

4 hours ago, Jeezla said:

We need to trade Mills for a wr. Let Rasul start opposite Darby. 

You keep saying this but we all know it's not going to happen  #postpadding 

[Jeezla]

3 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said:

You keep saying this but we all know it's not going to happen  #postpadding 

We'll trade for someone

[EaglesPeteC]

Just now, Jeezla said:

We'll trade for someone

Mills  isn't getting traded he is Schwartz's man crush.

[Jeezla]

Just now, EaglesPeteC said:

Mills  isn't getting traded he is Schwartz's man crush.

That's why howie has to trade him. Schwartz is blinded by love.

[RBreezy]

Why is Schwartz so enamored with Mills? The entire infatuation never made sense. I’m pretty sure Mills has given up the most receptions and yards by any corner since taking over one of the starting roles

[EagleBlueDon]

2 hours ago, RBreezy said:

Why is Schwartz so enamored with Mills? The entire infatuation never made sense. I’m pretty sure Mills has given up the most receptions and yards by any corner since taking over one of the starting roles

I really don't see how he's any better than Bradley Fletcher or Cary Williams. He's just hyped way more. 

[Jeezla]

11 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said:

I really don't see how he's any better than Bradley Fletcher or Cary Williams. He's just hyped way more. 

He's the cb version of J Matt and Howie needs to trade him so Jim can stop pretending he's a starting cb.

[nlesthought]

It could be both Schwartz and Undlin who are infatuated with Mills. 

[808]

The return of Jordan Matthews. Ha, that’s crazy when you think about it. 

Maybe we won the Darby trade? ?

[BAConrad]

Not defending Mills' play this season but....

FWIW he was the 3rd best cornerback according to Football Outsiders throughout the entire 2017-2018 postseason. 

[Jeezla]

1 hour ago, BAConrad said:

Not defending Mills' play this season but....

FWIW he was the 3rd best cornerback according to Football Outsiders throughout the entire 2017-2018 postseason. 

He can thank the dl for that, and he was terrible in the sb. We should trade him for a wr before the whole league realizes he sucks

[BAConrad]

3 hours ago, Jeezla said:

He can thank the dl for that, and he was terrible in the sb. We should trade him for a wr before the whole league realizes he sucks

I mean, 100% agree that our DL masks a LOT of our corner's deficiencies. But this ranking by FO was based on pure coverage, accounted for pass rush/how often the CB was targeted on rushed throws, things like that.

Mills also has been one of the best tackling corners not just on our team the last year and a half, but in the league. 

People keep wondering why Schwartz loves Mills so much and the above is probably a big reason. That and his confidence / short memory as a corner. 

For some reason, Schwartz has always given his corners large cushions against WRs, which means that there isnt going to be safety help over the top often, as our safeties will normally be on TEs (see Jenkins) or playing close to the box, and also that our corners just need to keep their WRs in front of them for, at best, minimum gains that are tackled right away. 

The defense is built around the DL. We all know this. And with how fast QBs are getting the ball out (i believe it was the fastest ever this week on average per QB), I dont really know if we can continue to use our corners like that. Would rather play McLeod in a centerfield role, with Jenkins shadowing TE/RB, and press with our corners at the LOS. Let them play cover 1. 

 

[BAConrad]

Also, just read a stat via theringer.com that Fletcher Cox has now played 718 straight snaps WITHOUT missing a tackle.

Thats over a season ?. 

No wonder the guy is getting fed up with how most non Eagles fans/writers underrate the hell out of him. The guys just a monster. 

And as for Carson, Kevin Clark on the Ringer was arguing for his decision to choose Wentz as his answer for "Who will be the best QB in 3 years?". And he brought up how Wentz, literally, as elite at ANY throw. 

Each route and Carsons QB rating on said route and how it compared to the rest of the league in 2017:

Go Routes: 108.2 (+20.8)

Hitch Routes: 102.8 (+17.5)

In Routes: 118.3 (+37.3) !!!!!!!

Out Routes: 98.9 (+15.0)

Quick Outs: 115.3 (+19.9)

Crossing Routes: 108.4 (+12.9)

Sooooo yeah. People can just keep slobbing all over Mahomes' knob. Please do. And just let Carson destroy defenses under the radar as long as possible.

*Another Fun Stat: 91% of Mahomes' completions this season have been to guys who had more than a yard of separation. The guy is literally just throwing it to wide open dudes.

[ninjapirate]

dak prescott can't even make throws to wide open dudes so dont knock that skill @BAConrad

[Nabbs4u]

https://247sports-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/247sports.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/Article/Jordan-Matthews-drops-pass-Eagles-122253123/Amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fnfl%2Fphiladelphia-eagles%2FArticle%2FJordan-Matthews-drops-pass-Eagles-122253123%2F

Quote

Matthews dropped six passes in 2016 (his last year with the Eagles) on 117 targets, a rate of 5.1 percent. He was tied for eighth in the NFL with six other players with the number of drops in 2016. For all the slack Matthews gets on the drops, he only has 16 in his three years with the Eagles.

 That drop rate in 2016 (5.1 percent) was 27th in the NFL, so Matthews doesn't drop passes as much as you think. Still his average number of drops per game was ninth in the NFL.

Only five receivers in NFL history had 65 catches and 800 yards in each of their first three seasons in the league: Randy Moss, A.J. Green, Odell Beckham Jr., Mike Evans, and Jordan Matthews. There's production there when Matthews was in Philadelphia the first time, but he wasn't a No. 1 receiver like the other four.