GHARMON9 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Ed Oliver/Devin White at 12 Noah Fant/AJ Brown at 30 Jachai Polite/ Darnell Savage at 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: I’d rather have a top tier 2019 draft QB at 30 than Devin freaking Bush at 12. That’s for sure. I'm probably easier to please than most at 12. My "happy" list is set at: Oliver, Sweat, Burns, White, Bush, Metcalf, Hockenson and Dillard. (excluding the big 3 on defense who won't be there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, jleisher said: I am confused, if they have potential interest in him in a few years, then why wouldn't they draft him now to get him into the system? Makes no sense to scout him, figure where he would fit in the new system, then let someone else take him and try to trade for him later. Take this to the bank, if they pass and try to trade for him in 2 years, they will give up a higher draft pick to trade for him, then to draft him. My opinion on that is that he is just not ready at the moment (and may never be), but if he can go some way to increasing his accuracy (personally, I am doubting that, guys who were inaccurate in college are generally inaccurate in the NFL) he might be of interest in a few years. I also think he has issues reading the field, another no-no. Because he has good size and a good arm, they are covering that small chance of him improving in the areas that matter. That doesn't make him worth a high pick now (odds are poor he turns into something worth keeping, imo), but might be interesting in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Real question about QB development... how many guys are inaccurate in college and then accurate in the NFL? I'm very much of the Mike Leach approach where guys don't really get more accurate once they pass a certain age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, CWood21 said: The weird thing is the Packers are kinda in that no man's land. It's not inconceivable they take a QB early given that Aaron Rodger is going to play his age 35 season and he's struggled with injuries the last 2 years. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that they could start planning for life after Aaron Rodgers. Not likely, but not impossible. On the other hand, the Packers wouldn't realistically let Lock see the field for 3 years. Are they really going to invest the 12th overall pick into a QB whose going to sit for at least 3 years? I don't think so. Honestly, this smells like the DeShone Kizer rumor that was floated before the start of Day 2 in 2017 before they took Kevin King. I agree. Not likely. Not impossible. But not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, PossibleCabbage said: A thought occurs about this Drew Lock noise: What team was most linked to Lock throughout this process? Denver Which are the two teams in the top 11, other than Arizona and the Giants, most likely to take a QB high? Denver and Cincinnati. Which team picking after the Packers has been most rumored to be interested in moving up to get someone? Atlanta, who picks 14th. So it's entirely plausible that the Packers are signposting to the Bengals and Broncos "hey, don't get cute, if you want the QB just take him, there is no guarantee that he will be there later". Even if it makes no sense for Green Bay to take Drew Lock without an out in the Aaron Rodgers contract until 2022, you can still plant doubt in the minds of the two teams picking directly ahead of you. Okayyyyyyyyyyyy...... And in this hand of High Stakes NFL Poker...... I (CIN and/or DEN) am seeing you're wager.....and going all in....that you're not gonna draft Lock at 12.....and I'm drafting other players instead! So....none of us wind up with Lock....but I win the bet! So there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleisher Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said: My opinion on that is that he is just not ready at the moment (and may never be), but if he can go some way to increasing his accuracy (personally, I am doubting that, guys who were inaccurate in college are generally inaccurate in the NFL) he might be of interest in a few years. I also think he has issues reading the field, another no-no. Because he has good size and a good arm, they are covering that small chance of him improving in the areas that matter. That doesn't make him worth a high pick now (odds are poor he turns into something worth keeping, imo), but might be interesting in a few years. Ok, that make more sense to me. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: I’d rather have a top tier 2019 draft QB at 30 than Devin freaking Bush at 12. That’s for sure. Lock isn't a top teir QB. He'd have been a toss up with Mason Rudolph last year as QB 6-7 which would have made him a 3rd to 4th rounder. Bush, although a reach, is at least a top 20 prospect that would improve the team. I'm very interested to see how much real interest there is in these QBs (Haskins/Lock/Jones). It wouldn't shock me if they all go round 3 or later. One team probably falls in love and trades up for the fifth year option for one, but I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, pacman5252 said: Lock isn't a top teir QB. He'd have been a toss up with Mason Rudolph last year as QB 6-7 which would have made him a 3rd to 4th rounder. Bush, although a reach, is at least a top 20 prospect that would improve the team. I'm very interested to see how much real interest there is in these QBs (Haskins/Lock/Jones). It wouldn't shock me if they all go round 3 or later. One team probably falls in love and trades up for the fifth year option for one, but I don't see it. I think you could make an argument that Lock could have been the 4th highest QB depending on how you view Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Steve Wyche: Was just told by someone with knowledge of the scheduled visit that Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray no longer plans to meet with the Washington Redskins this week. Read: "I've got better things to do and we both know you're not going to draft high enough to take me....so you can keep your crab cakes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, pacman5252 said: Lock isn't a top teir QB. He'd have been a toss up with Mason Rudolph last year as QB 6-7 which would have made him a 3rd to 4th rounder. Bush, although a reach, is at least a top 20 prospect that would improve the team. I'm very interested to see how much real interest there is in these QBs (Haskins/Lock/Jones). It wouldn't shock me if they all go round 3 or later. One team probably falls in love and trades up for the fifth year option for one, but I don't see it. I specified 2019 draft QBs for a reason. Don’t love any of them. Bet they all go round 1 bc they’re QBs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: I specified 2019 draft QBs for a reason. Don’t love any of them. Bet they all go round 1 bc they’re QBs though. I think two (Kyler and pick one late) goes round. I don’t see the talent or really the genuine interest this year. Really outside of Miami, no team is really desperate this year and I see a lot of fake interest; AZ- they took Rosen last year and could legitimately just be trying to trade the pick. It wouldn’t shock me if they just took Bosa Oak- has Carr, who has had moments NYG- hot seat GM who needs to win or will get fired. It is Eli or bust Denver- has Flacco, Elway is on the hotseat Washington- traded for Keenum, Shanny is on the hot seat, gotta win or fired. On top of Bama,Clemson, and GA have better qbs coming out in the next 2 yeara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, CWood21 said: I think you could make an argument that Lock could have been the 4th highest QB depending on how you view Josh Allen. You could , I’d say Allen had the size and Flacco arm though. People forget Allen had #1 buzz going into the year. Lock never did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Leader said: Steve Wyche: Was just told by someone with knowledge of the scheduled visit that Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray no longer plans to meet with the Washington Redskins this week. Read: "I've got better things to do and we both know you're not going to draft high enough to take me....so you can keep your crab cakes" Ummm bad agent work here. Redskins could be looking to move up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, ChaRisMa said: Ummm bad agent work here. Redskins could be looking to move up... Could be his client has no interest playing for WA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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