Norm Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 This is bad juju.. Stop it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkySauce Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Norm said: This is bad juju.. Stop it Agreed - there should be a lifetime ban for creating bad juju. Your names go in the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, vegas492 said: LOL! Now is your time to gloat because we have no excuse for that offensive debacle. But remember one slip on your end and that game could have gone other way and you guys would be ones screaming what the hell is wrong with our offense because our defense dominated you as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Yeah don't think we can rub anything in on the Bears, that defense straight up dominated us. Had they drafted one of the other 2 QBs that year, we wouldn't have even sniffed a win last night or even be talking about a potential NFCN title. That defense is absolutely the best in the league, the Mack trade is one of the big reasons why. Never understood why this thread exists. "Hahaha you trade for a HOF pass rusher." Are we potentially better off not doing it? Sure, but the Bears are better FOR doing it too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I'll never forget.... dll2000: Presence of Mack makes Amos "spatula hands" finally catch some INTs. It made Fuller and Prince way better. You exchanged Matthews, Perry and Haha for Smiths and Amos and paid more. Is that even much of an upgrade? Not significantly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBobGray Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Yeah don't think we can rub anything in on the Bears, that defense straight up dominated us. Had they drafted one of the other 2 QBs that year, we wouldn't have even sniffed a win last night or even be talking about a potential NFCN title. That defense is absolutely the best in the league, the Mack trade is one of the big reasons why. Never understood why this thread exists. "Hahaha you trade for a HOF pass rusher." Are we potentially better off not doing it? Sure, but the Bears are better FOR doing it too. I just can't agree with the bold. For one, they had 19 pressures, which isn't all on just bad QBing. They consistently dominated the Bears OL play after play. Any QB is going to have trouble when the pocket is shrinking in a hurry every play. Two, it's weird to me how many people are selling the Green Bay defense as having been lucky to go against Trubisky, but ignoring the fact that Aaron looked just as rusty most of the night. The Bears D is absolutely stacked with talent, but Rodgers left a lot of plays on the field. Struggled early with accuracy, struggled late with decision making. Even the TD drive was a bad throw to MVS, two short throws, and then a prayer to Graham. Yes, the Bears probably have the league's best front seven, but Aaron also held the ball against a six man rush, routinely pulled it down instead of throwing it hot, and generally played right into their biggest strengths. Basically I'm just saying all the same caveats that apply to the Packers dominating a rusty Bears offense go the other way. This isn't a game that should really be used as a perfect barometer for either team. That being said, the Bears 100% made the right call trading for Mack, there's no need to be talking that down. It seems to have worked out in the end for everyone involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Now is your time to gloat because we have no excuse for that offensive debacle. ---Sure you do. It's the first time in recent memory that you faced a great Packers defense. But remember one slip on your end and that game could have gone other way and you guys would be ones screaming what the hell is wrong with our offense because our defense dominated you as well. --If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd never go hungry.--Sherrilyn Kenyon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Now is your time to gloat because we have no excuse for that offensive debacle. But remember one slip on your end and that game could have gone other way and you guys would be ones screaming what the hell is wrong with our offense because our defense dominated you as well. Nah.. Bears are garbage and y'all got stonked. We could never lose to those trash players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, MrBobGray said: I just can't agree with the bold. For one, they had 19 pressures, which isn't all on just bad QBing. They consistently dominated the Bears OL play after play. Any QB is going to have trouble when the pocket is shrinking in a hurry every play. Two, it's weird to me how many people are selling the Green Bay defense as having been lucky to go against Trubisky, but ignoring the fact that Aaron looked just as rusty most of the night. The Bears D is absolutely stacked with talent, but Rodgers left a lot of plays on the field. Struggled early with accuracy, struggled late with decision making. Even the TD drive was a bad throw to MVS, two short throws, and then a prayer to Graham. Yes, the Bears probably have the league's best front seven, but Aaron also held the ball against a six man rush, routinely pulled it down instead of throwing it hot, and generally played right into their biggest strengths. Basically I'm just saying all the same caveats that apply to the Packers dominating a rusty Bears offense go the other way. This isn't a game that should really be used as a perfect barometer for either team. That being said, the Bears 100% made the right call trading for Mack, there's no need to be talking that down. It seems to have worked out in the end for everyone involved. Yeah, it's being overlooked that GB's defense played better than Chicago's. People don't want to admit it yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Trading 2 1sts and essentially 22M a year in cap space for a non QB was always a mortgage your future move that didn't make the most sense. Maybe if he was on a rookie deal with like 2-3 years left or if it was legitimately a move to put you over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 You guys are selling Mack short. He may be the single most disruptive player in the NFL on defense. You take Mack off the Bears and I think there D is still top 10 but it isn't the #1 best defense in the NFL like it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Spartacus said: You guys are selling Mack short. He may be the single most disruptive player in the NFL on defense. You take Mack off the Bears and I think there D is still top 10 but it isn't the #1 best defense in the NFL like it is now. but he's not more infinity... the argument has never been about how good he is, it's how valuable he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boratt Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Spatula hands!! Oh god! The internet is a hilarious place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boratt Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 preston and Amos are the same price as Mack. Savage and Gary are bonuses. It could have been worse. Whether we won or not, we turned out OK regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, incognito_man said: but he's not more infinity... the argument has never been about how good he is, it's how valuable he is. I would say he is worth what the Bears traded I just don't think it was in the Bears best long term interest. I think a team like New Orleans, New England, Chargers, Packers a team with an aging known QB would have been money better spent. The Bears are young and ascending but they have squashed their ability to keep building essentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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